Jason N
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I watched the footage from the Matador, it looked pretty messy anyway, Big HP that peaked its head out a few times but, overall, despite the intensity of the storm, the visual quality appeared to be fairly poor.
State of the Chase Season 2023
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I watched the footage from the Matador, it looked pretty messy anyway, Big HP that peaked its head out a few times but, overall, despite the intensity of the storm, the visual quality appeared to be fairly poor.
Jason N
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Warren Faidley
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It's easy to beat yourself up at the end of the tornado chase season, especially in the days of social media where every event you miss is plastered on social media to drive you crazy. I accepted a long time ago that there are hundreds of chasers and public observers out there and only one me, so I could never be in multiple places at once, although quantum physics may change that in the future!
This has been one of the most bizarre seasons I have ever seen. Lots of straight line hodos, little capping, cold, dense modified outflows and lack of sufficient turning in the lower levels hid many tubes in rain shafts or left ground-hugging wall clouds in limbo. I don't recall another chase season were I witnessed so many wall clouds, many rotating, producing zilch. I was on the right storm about 75% of the time in May, in the perfect position, but only saw a few "possible spin-ups." This disgusting set-up is finally coming to an end as the regular summer pattern settles in. Hello monsoon.
The hurricane season could be quite active, with above average water temperatures in the Atlantic, Gulf and Caribbean. If El Niño flow does not shear the storms out, I'm going to be very busy with tropical fun.
This has been one of the most bizarre seasons I have ever seen. Lots of straight line hodos, little capping, cold, dense modified outflows and lack of sufficient turning in the lower levels hid many tubes in rain shafts or left ground-hugging wall clouds in limbo. I don't recall another chase season were I witnessed so many wall clouds, many rotating, producing zilch. I was on the right storm about 75% of the time in May, in the perfect position, but only saw a few "possible spin-ups." This disgusting set-up is finally coming to an end as the regular summer pattern settles in. Hello monsoon.
The hurricane season could be quite active, with above average water temperatures in the Atlantic, Gulf and Caribbean. If El Niño flow does not shear the storms out, I'm going to be very busy with tropical fun.
Andy Wehrle
EF5
Looks like today has been another productive chase day for those still able to be out on the western Plains. I'm looking forward to getting out again tomorrow in Iowa.
JamesCaruso
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To paraphrase my post above, I would call it another kick in the balls
Tony Laubach
EF5
I gotta say, the high plains have come to life in a manner that we haven't seen in years. Especially the last week and change, seems like every storm is spinning out tubes (I'll even give a shout out to northern MN on Saturday). A lot of us Colorado residents have been disgusted with the incredible amount of rain/moisture available out this way, and all May, we couldn't get the dynamics to go with it. Felt like it was all going to waste til the last week or so, and BOOM. I've had the best June of my career on three back-to-back days. That moisture was finally getting put to use (we had 70s dewpoints up here on the Akron day, which is unheard of for eastern CO).
Not so sure this doesn't continue to some extent... we do pretty well in northwest flow here, so we can get lucky under either pattern, even if we go ridging. Summer has set in, I've finally turned on the sprinklers and A/C. But hoping we'll squander out a few days between now and September.
Warren, I hope you're wrong about the Tropics. LOL I'd rather play inland
Not so sure this doesn't continue to some extent... we do pretty well in northwest flow here, so we can get lucky under either pattern, even if we go ridging. Summer has set in, I've finally turned on the sprinklers and A/C. But hoping we'll squander out a few days between now and September.
Warren, I hope you're wrong about the Tropics. LOL I'd rather play inland
Jeff Wright
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They may not hide for much longer.
The faith I had in passive milimetric wave cameras is replaced by this find:
Neural wavefront shaping camera overcomes light scattering problem in optical imaging
Engineers from Rice University and the University of Maryland have created full-motion video technology that could potentially be used to make cameras that peer through fog, smoke, driving rain, murky water, skin, bone and other media that reflect scattered light and obscure objects from view.
"Imaging through scattering media is the 'holy grail problem' in optical imaging at this point," said Rice's Ashok Veeraraghavan, co-corresponding author of an open-access study published today in Science Advances. "Scattering is what makes light—which has lower wavelength, and therefore gives much better spatial resolution—unusable in many, many scenarios. If you can undo the effects of scattering, then imaging just goes so much further."
They may not hide for much longer.
The faith I had in passive milimetric wave cameras is replaced by this find:
Neural wavefront shaping camera overcomes light scattering problem in optical imaging
Engineers from Rice University and the University of Maryland have created full-motion video technology that could potentially be used to make cameras that peer through fog, smoke, driving rain, murky water, skin, bone and other media that reflect scattered light and obscure objects from view.phys.org
"Imaging through scattering media is the 'holy grail problem' in optical imaging at this point," said Rice's Ashok Veeraraghavan, co-corresponding author of an open-access study published today in Science Advances. "Scattering is what makes light—which has lower wavelength, and therefore gives much better spatial resolution—unusable in many, many scenarios. If you can undo the effects of scattering, then imaging just goes so much further."
What does this post have to do with the chase season discussion?
JamesCaruso
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The last week of July, my wife is taking the kids to visit her parents. With no family responsibilities, and the ability to work remotely, I am thinking of heading out to the northern Plains IF it looks like there could be a few chase days. I have actually never chased in, or been to, ND or Montana, and would love the chance to do so (I normally hate even going as far north as SD, but that’s only because I usually have to get there from the southern Plains on a chase vacation). My understanding is that July in general immediately follows April, May and June in tornado frequency. Any thoughts on how the fourth week of July, in particular, might look? I assume it tails off toward the end of the month, regardless of what the stats say about the month as a whole… Any thoughts on how things might look for that week in this particular year, based on what we have seen so far?
I’ve chased up there a fair amount. The terrain is generally pretty good and even the side roads are decent in the rain. The two negatives I see for July chasing is the difficulty of putting together two good days of chasing in a row and the corn getting taller as the season wears on.
You generally don’t have more than one day in a given area as the systems move through. Weeks like we’ve had fairly recently in the Texas panhandle, New Mexico and Eastern Colorado generally don’t happen farther North. You have to choose your chase times a bit more judiciously.
As far as the corn, it’s not a big deal, but the darn corn can grow pretty tall some years and I hate it when it gets to just the right height to prevent you from seeing any bases any further away than a half mile.
I myself like the chasing in Nebraska and the Dakotas, but won’t be doing it for a little while yet because I broke my leg pretty badly a while ago and am just turning the corner now.
Just do it though because it’s a long way until May 2024
You generally don’t have more than one day in a given area as the systems move through. Weeks like we’ve had fairly recently in the Texas panhandle, New Mexico and Eastern Colorado generally don’t happen farther North. You have to choose your chase times a bit more judiciously.
As far as the corn, it’s not a big deal, but the darn corn can grow pretty tall some years and I hate it when it gets to just the right height to prevent you from seeing any bases any further away than a half mile.
I myself like the chasing in Nebraska and the Dakotas, but won’t be doing it for a little while yet because I broke my leg pretty badly a while ago and am just turning the corner now.
Just do it though because it’s a long way until May 2024
Jason N
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@JamesCaruso : I've chased up there a few times myself but never in late July, so I can't speak to the corn height, but I noticed it some in Late May and Mid June before. That being said the road network up there is mixed with terrain, and especially say from Bowman up to Williston and along the ND/MT border north of 94 up towards the Canadian border. There are a few spots that I liked the most north of the Missouri River along Rt. 2 which is a good west-east run to some north south turn offs. I personally think the road network and terrain south of Rt2 makes it a little more problematic in some spots but not terrible. South of the missouri to Rt 12 is where those terrain and road issues are the most "meh". but the region as a whole is beautiful and its where I tend to look for LP late in the season as stuff heads east towards Minot. Hopefully the pattern will cooperate if you make it up there.
JamesCaruso
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With no ability to even think about chasing until perhaps the last week of July, I have not been inclined to spend time looking at models. But I did look at SPC today and noticed areas outlooked for Days 3, 4 and 5, as well as a potentially-favorable mention of Day 6 in the text. Not all that common to see an area delineated for Day 4, let alone Day 5.
Can‘t believe the lateness of this season… I have never scheduled a chase vacation that went beyond June 10 or so. Most years, if my chase vacation was inactive, it was usually the case that my trip began AFTER some good early/mid May events that I missed… Yeah maybe there would be one big June event that happened after I came home from my trip, like a Pilger… But I don’t ever recall a season that barely even started until mid-June, and was still going this late.
Regardless, with my chasing luck, there’s no chance it will still be active for the last week of July, when I may have the ability to head back out for a week…
Can‘t believe the lateness of this season… I have never scheduled a chase vacation that went beyond June 10 or so. Most years, if my chase vacation was inactive, it was usually the case that my trip began AFTER some good early/mid May events that I missed… Yeah maybe there would be one big June event that happened after I came home from my trip, like a Pilger… But I don’t ever recall a season that barely even started until mid-June, and was still going this late.
Regardless, with my chasing luck, there’s no chance it will still be active for the last week of July, when I may have the ability to head back out for a week…
Bobby Little
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You are absolutely right James..Wait you are talking about ME right?
Ryan Schwartz
EF1
I respect the chasers that have to balance a job and family life on top of storms and can't just chase every setup willy-nilly like the "career chasers".
JamesCaruso
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Really appreciate you saying that Ryan! Despite chasing for 25+ years, I sometimes feel like a second-class citizen compared to the “career chasers.” I simply don’t have as many successes to my credit, being limited to a max of two weeks chasing per year, and subject to the randomness of whether that two weeks is active/inactive, and missing some of the bigger, more famous events that occur just before or just after a chase vacation. Chase-day mistakes, which we all make, sting that much more when you have to wait a whole year to redeem yourself. As does a weird season like 2023, that was generally subpar during peak time, and became active only after us chase vacationers all went home, while the Plains chasers are still out there, able to snag that one-off at odd times of year. Chase vacationers also have to make much bigger decisions - it’s not just “Is it worth chasing today,” it’s “Is it worth heading out to the Plains this *week*“. I know you’re not talking just about chase vacationers - most Plains chasers also have to balance jobs and families - but I deal with that AND being far from the Plains, so am the furthest from a “career chaser” one can be, despite a very lengthy run so far - so your sentiment is much appreciated!
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