May 1st

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Mike Hollingshead

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A few of us on here have been watching Amos' countdown to May 1st for months now with anticipation to what it would bring. This was not what I had imagined for the first day of real spring. It is noon and we have 30s from NE to Canada. Maybe by June we will have 50s! *jumps up and down*
 
If somebody had said I would chase eastern Arkansas on April 29th believing there might be upslope LPs in west Texas and eastern NM a few days later, only to turn right back around and drive home to Indiana so I could spend May 1 nursing a small hangover (at least I got back early enough for the $2 Stoli specials), while posting to my blog and Stormtrack, I would have thought they were from Illinois. :)

But I'll give my blog a shameless plug here (not that I make any money), because Mike's subject matter was on my mind this morning too.

Here's the beginning and I'll post the link underneath:

When I added the countdown clock to my front page, a friendly argument began on Stormtrack about whether chase season started in May or March. Well, now we have March in May, so it's the best of both worlds for people who start their engines early.

I could have imagined a slow first week of May, but the way it's slow is what seems so strange. Veteran forecasters describe this pattern and the Canadian low as "highly anomalous." So while I think it's fair to critique the various model performances...
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I'm trying not to get to down on the current weather. Here in Denver we are getting snow daily and I know from past years that a wet spring translates into a good supply of evapotranspiration for storms in eastern CO when the warm temps finally do arrive. I think we're a few weeks away from being really concerned. :)
 
Just like Verne said... and here's the pic I've already posted a dozen times since yesterday...

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Fortunately last night's snow has melted with the brief appearance of the sun this morning, but another round of light snow is expected tonight... it's felt like an Ohio winter over the past few days here... while snow this late isn't terribly unusual (average last snow date April 27), I think the consecutive days is...

Ah well... my vacation doesn't start til the 10th, so as far as I'm concerned (being selfish), I'm not missing anything until then anyway! :lol:
 
"This was not what I had imagined for the first day of real spring."

Meteorological spring begins March 1...
 
Well

Report: May 1. South Sioux City NE.

It was snowing. in May. The looks on peoples faces were priceless. One looked at me at a red light (apparently noticing the storm chase decals) and gave me a look like "What in the World"? I just looked back at her, shook my head and smiled, while contemplating the fact it is May, and snowing.

Beautiful way to start May. :roll:
 
"This was not what I had imagined for the first day of real spring."

Meteorological spring begins March 1...

Real spring begins May 1... .....
 
Not sure I've heard that defined anywhere - when does "real" spring end? And what is real if it's not on the calendar, in astronomy, or meteorology ;> ?
 
Not sure I've heard that defined anywhere - when does "real" spring end? And what is real if it's not on the calendar, in astronomy, or meteorology ;> ?

Oh you are so correct Rob. Please accept my appology for going into the "figure of speach" realm of life. Never again, I promise. Doing so just opens the door for you to step in with the analness. Does it ever get old? I mean it isn't like you didn't get it anyway.

Wait, it is possible you didn't get it. This is a chaser site. I think when most of us think of "real" spring starting we think of May 1. I don't think of March 1. But you are right the calendar doesn't say so. Congrats.
 
The Wizards On Top of Yonder Hill say that if I wait five or six more days we'll see a return to normalacy. Not that I don't enjoy defrosting my windshield.
 
Not sure I've heard that defined anywhere - when does "real" spring end? And what is real if it's not on the calendar, in astronomy, or meteorology ;> ?

Oh you are so correct Rob. Please accept my appology for going into the "figure of speach" realm of life. Never again, I promise. Doing so just opens the door for you to step in with the analness. Does it ever get old? I mean it isn't like you didn't get it anyway.

Wait, it is possible you didn't get it. This is a chaser site. I think when most of us think of "real" spring starting we think of May 1. I don't think of March 1. But you are right the calendar doesn't say so. Congrats.

Eeek... Sarcasm a bit thick... Play nice...

For what it's worth, "real" spring would imply, to me, that it be some sort of objectively-determined spring (beit metr or calendar spring)... I'll vote for Apr 15 as real spring in terms of chasing, but even that'll depend upon if one is in the norhtern plains, southern plains, southeast, or upper midwest.

Regardless, I agree that this very highly anamolous pattern is very bad for chasers... While it does appear as though a change is in the offing, it also coincides with finals week (here at OU atleast) if next week ramps up... I'd cite climo, but this spring has been very unclimo. so far, so there's probably not much point in spouting anything about climo...
 
All I can say is the next time I hear someone mention "global warming", I'd like to kick them in the knee! j/k :roll: :roll: :roll:

The other thing that gripes my @$$ is that all these people who, constantly, rant on and on about oh how funny it is that we're not getting any severe weather... let these folks see how happy they are come July and August when it's drier than a "popcorn fart" and all their precious little gardens, etc. are all dried up. For us here in the plains, and for many in the Central states, this cold/dry airmass is also playing hell and threatining an impending "doom" for severe drought this year!

Not to say it all won't change in a matter of a day or two, but all I'm saying is "if" this pattern continues, all those making fun that it's stupid to chase storms and poking fun at how funny it is with this dry spell and cool weather... I don't want to share a shoulder for them to cry on come later this summer! :wink:

Gees, I sound a little bitter don't I? :oops: See, I work with a bunch of "jerks" who seem to think that, somehow, I have control over the weather and that I'm an idiot (no comments needed) because I chase storms. :twisted:
 
THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
PUBLIC WEATHER STATEMENT FOR PORTIONS OF

TEXAS
OKLAHOMA
KANSAS
NEBRASKA
SOUTH DAKOTA
NORTH DAKOTA
MISSOURI
IOWA
INDIANA
OHIO
MINNISOTA

EFFECTIVE THIS SPRING AND SUMMER FROM 1201 AM MAY 01 2005 UNTIL
1159 PM JUNE 31 2005 EDT.

SPRING HAS HEREBY BEEN CANCELLED.

DISCUSSION...LARGE CANADIAN AIR MASS AS INVADED THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES AND OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OF OUR EXPERIEMENTAL SUPER LONG RANGE GFS (AVAILABLE ONLY WITHIN THE NOAA DOMAIN) INDICATES THAT THE COLD AIR MASS WILL REMAIN ENTRENCHED IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE US UNTIL THE END OF THE JUNE PERIOD.. AT THAT TIME IT APPEARS ONE OF THE LARGEST SUMMER RIDGES SEEN SINCE WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING RECORDS WILL PUSH THE COLD AIR MASS TO THE EAST AND FIRMLY ENTRENCH ITSELF OVER THE PLAINS.

THE END RESULT IS THAT BELOW SEASONAL TEMPS WITH EXTENSIVE CLOUD COVER WILL BE THE FLAVOR FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PLAINS STATES THROUGH THE END OF JUNE, FOLLOWED BY RECORD HIGH TEMPS AND DRY CONDITIONS. THUNDERSTORMS ARE OUT OF THE QUESTION ACROSS THE ENTIRE AFFECTED AREA FOR THE NEXT 2 MONTHS.

IT IS ADVISED THAT ALL STORM CHASERS CONTEMPLATING CHASING THIS YEAR GIVE UP AND GO BACK TO YOUR DAY JOBS.

EDWARDS

;310,0802 284,0851 301,0860 324,0812;
 
"May 1st, and we still are having frost advisories and freeze warnings. This sucks!"

Most locations don't start issuing frost/freeze bulletins until May 1st since growing season doesn't really get underway til now.
 
WOW

Albeit not real...that has to be the most DEPRESSING looking Public weather statement I have EVER seen ;)

After looking at that, I feel like I just awoke from a nightmare!! ;) ;)
 
I think when most of us think of "real" spring starting we think of May 1.

Balderdash! Spring started April 10th, however spring ended April 11th, for we went backwards into Winter.... which continues to date.... then by Mid May we will rapidly swing into Summer and the end of chasing 2005. Sorry, all tornadoes have been seen this season.

:lol:

Mike U
 
GOOD NEWS PLAINSMEN!

MAY 1st
at 11:00 am today we had the 1st thunderstorm of the year here in Panguitch UTAH and it was a doozie - pounding and cracking -
maaaaaybe this will creep up on you somewhere in OK in a couple days?

then again it is thunder mountain here so dont get your hopes up too much!!!!!
 
David, you forgot Wisconsin in there!

And New Mexico, but in these mountains, we get no spring anyway. Our four seasons are winter, winter, winter, and rain.

And Illinois. :wink: As much as I know you plain folk hate to mention that -other- state.

I attended an airshow this weekend at which I normally spend time looking for s shady spot to sit and keep cool...today, I brought a sweatshirt, long pants, and was still cold. Temps hit a balmy 50F...but, there was also a 30 mph wind added into that.
 
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