Storm chasers fight accusations of bad behavior as “chasertainment" comes of age

Besides the hazard issue that has been the main focus of the last few posts, there is another way that the actions of irresponsible chasers can affect all of us. The more we antagonize local authorities with irresponsible behavior, the more likely it is that they will do things that interfere with our ability to chase. One police roadblock can end your chance of getting to that spectacular storm you would have position on in a couple more miles, but now you sit in a jam of chasers behind a roadblock while the storm moves off into the eastern distance.
 
To me the real threat these cited chasers pose to other chasers is their ability to:

1. Sell more video
2. Be more famous on the internet

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the real reason for the article's criticism towards these groups, not genuine concern for the community or safety in general.

Powers explained that storm chasing used to be about storm spotting, photography, camaraderie, real science and adventure.

It still is. However, if your goals are instead to make money and be famous, than yeah, you're directly competing with and tied to the adrenaline junkies and social media stars.
 
I really can't see any future significant revenue streams from storm chasing. From what I understand even the 'famous' chasers have livelihoods outside of storm chasing. Storm season is short, most tornadoes are filmed from various angles by smart phones and cameras that are still greatly improving in quality, and there are enough tour groups out there to satisfy demand. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but hopefully some newer chasers will read this and look at it harder.

I think the best anyone can hope for now is to have a decent job that affords them the funds and the time off to pursue the hobby. For younger chasers I'd highly recommend putting some of that money and energy into completing a degree in a field that you will enjoy for the next 40-45 years. A little hard work now can provide the resources you need to enjoy the hobby for a long time. The tornadoes will be here next year and the year after that etc...
 
Besides the hazard issue that has been the main focus of the last few posts, there is another way that the actions of irresponsible chasers can affect all of us. The more we antagonize local authorities with irresponsible behavior, the more likely it is that they will do things that interfere with our ability to chase. One police roadblock can end your chance of getting to that spectacular storm you would have position on in a couple more miles, but now you sit in a jam of chasers behind a roadblock while the storm moves off into the eastern distance.
I couldn't agree more. There's been debate for at least a decade now over whether "outlawing chasing" is feasible. In my mind, it doesn't really matter. Law enforcement can make chasing infinitely harder and more painful if they want to without any new legislation. We've already seen this to some extent in a certain state that I'm sure most of us can name, but it could conceivably be a lot worse than that, even.

To me the real threat these cited chasers pose to other chasers is their ability to:

1. Sell more video
2. Be more famous on the internet

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the real reason for the article's criticism towards these groups, not genuine concern for the community or safety in general.



It still is. However, if your goals are instead to make money and be famous, than yeah, you're directly competing with and tied to the adrenaline junkies and social media stars.
Totally agree with all this as well. It amuses me that certain chasers seem to have the idea that if they rile up the media, LEOs, and the public by spotlighting bad chaser behavior, the result will be a big crackdown -- one exclusively affecting their "enemies" while leaving themselves unscathed, giving them a competitive advantage in the activities you listed. More than likely, we're all going down together if anything like that materializes. If you really want to risk hastening that process just out of spite or ego, I have to question your passion for storm chasing.
 
I just want to know what this byline means?

"America's Storm Survival Expert "

What does it take to qualify as THE expert? Not "one of the experts" or "an expert" or "someone with expertise" but "the only and only expert in storm survival"? Next thing you know someone will claim to be the "US Weather Expert" and designate himself as the "U.S.'s authority on extreme weather and its effects on people and businesses."!

Oh yeah. Already taken ;)
 
I really can't see any future significant revenue streams from storm chasing. From what I understand even the 'famous' chasers have livelihoods outside of storm chasing. Storm season is short, most tornadoes are filmed from various angles by smart phones and cameras that are still greatly improving in quality, and there are enough tour groups out there to satisfy demand. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but hopefully some newer chasers will read this and look at it harder.

I think the best anyone can hope for now is to have a decent job that affords them the funds and the time off to pursue the hobby. For younger chasers I'd highly recommend putting some of that money and energy into completing a degree in a field that you will enjoy for the next 40-45 years. A little hard work now can provide the resources you need to enjoy the hobby for a long time. The tornadoes will be here next year and the year after that etc...

I completely agree with this, but one good video from a killer EF-5 can easily net you 1,000,000 YouTube views and a several thousand dollar check. You do some TV interviews, get pimped on Reddit, the porch chasers on FB go nuts over your video, and you're on top of the world if attention is your thing. Even if it's not likely to happen again, the person that got Joplin in 2011 might still be chasing that "high" - trying to get the same level of exposure and financial windfall 10 years later, constantly trying to one-up other chasers. Even that $500 check from a low-end event can mean the difference between a good and a bad season for some chasers barely scraping by.

Sure, there's a group of bitter and jealous chasers out there that want the herd thinned for selfish reasons, but there are a good number of chasers that don't need that $500 media sale and don't care about the Internet fame, yet legitimately care about the herd's size. It seems like you can't make a real complaint about chasers without getting lumped into the jealous category.

The one thing I like about all the new extreme chasers is that some no name chaser from Nebraska can get an amazing shot that no one else gets, and every time that happens the appeal of extreme chasing goes down a little because money and attention are more difficult to get for everyone else.

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*BARF*
 
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It amuses me that certain chasers seem to have the idea that if they rile up the media, LEOs, and the public by spotlighting bad chaser behavior, the result will be a big crackdown -- one exclusively affecting their "enemies" while leaving themselves unscathed, giving them a competitive advantage in the activities you listed.

If they do start setting up road blocks I doudt they will that they will let these "certain chasers" through, even with media credentials. They are not going to have time to mess with it.
 
This "big crackdown" will never happen until a senator's grandchild or something is killed by a chaser. You might get that jerk that gives you a few hundred in fines, but you can get that now. Chasers just aren't a legit threat to a community compared to everything else going on, and no one short of the biggest cities has the resources to make it an issue.

Did the roadblocks near Salina on 4/14/12 prevent dozens of people from getting great footage/pictures? Not in the slightest.
 
Did the roadblocks near Salina on 4/14/12 prevent dozens of people from getting great footage/pictures? Not in the slightest.

Nor did the one north of Minco, OK on 5-3-99. Well, at least for the two media chase vehicles they let through ahead of us, and then us when I ran it ;-)
 
Traffic is a valid concern when picking and taking escape routes, especially local traffic, which I'd say is potentially more hazardous than yahoos or armored vehicles. You can minimize its impacts by avoiding traffic in general, taking your escape route as soon you recognize you might encounter traffic, and having multiple options for escape routes. I'm not saying you can't absolutely prevent that worst case scenario where you suddenly have to execute an escape, have only one option, and then encounter traffic. However, if you're diligent, I think you could certainly minimize the chances that this could occur such that it would be quite rare. Brindley and I are always on the move whenever we see a clump of cars coming down our route, and actively work to avoid knots of stopped chasers, just to maintain our spacing from them.

To be honest, if a few cars mean the difference between a clean escape and an impact, then you probably need to reassess your chase strategies and level of risk. It's more of, "What am I doing here?" rather than, "What are they doing here?" Take responsibility for being caught in traffic when you need to escape, rather than blaming the traffic, downed tree, flooded road, or whatever else is blocking your escape.


I of course agree with this but sometimes it is easier said than done and we all take calculated risks. Case in point for me this year was 5/26/14 on the tornado-warned supercell near Garden City, Texas. The storm was moving ESE and there was one south road out of GC and one east road, neither of which had options to turn in another direction anytime soon. If we had gone south we would have been pretty much saying goodbye to the storm very soon, because it would have passed east of our longitude and there were no other east roads to turn on for miles and miles. So, we chose the east road instead. At one point traffic slowed to nearly bumper to bumper through a combination of leapfrogging chasers and, if I remember correctly, a law enforcement vehicle trying to get through. With the circulation behind us and the traffic in front of us, and no southern escape route, I realized we would be in big trouble if there had been a violent tornado on the ground behind us. Now, maybe I would not have felt comfortable making the same road decision at Garden City in a different kind of storm, but that's all hypothetical.

My point is that when the road is OK directionally but might be affected by traffic, and there are no alternative roads or escape routes, do you just bail out? Or do you take the calculated risk? Bailing out may very well be the right answer for storms like El Reno, but in other situations an experienced chaser may have to take some calculated risks otherwise we will never see anything. Of course there is inherent risk to chasing to begin with so certain actions along the way will naturally come with some calculated risks.

On a related note, when people hear that I chase storms, they always ask if I have ever been scared, nervous or had a close call. My response is that the only times I was ever nervous was when I was somehow disoriented, wasn't sure what was happening or had lost situational awareness (of course, this only happened in the early days of my chase career, particularly before we had mobile radar ;-) ). Most of these situations were probably not at all dangerous in retrospect; it was just the uncertainty that caused anxiety. Conversely, there were other situations that may have in reality been more dangerous, yet were not scary to me because there was complete awareness and understanding of the calculated risk being taken at that moment. I always found this dichotomy to be somewhat ironic.
 
So then why doesn't the article just cite an "anonymous source"? "Because, Skip, that would sound silly in an article about hobbyist cloud watchers." Yeah, it's not like we're exposing the Mexican cartel or NSA leakers here. Given the number of whackjobs this hobby draws in, it doesn't surprise me that there have been some threats made. It's all toothless squabbling though. Immature fighting on the internet.

You know a lot of us just drive out there, see tornadoes, share our pictures and videos, and drive home. What the extreme adrenaline junkies and social media attention seekers do, has almost zero impact on my chasing style. So while I agree with portions of that article, it's also of little consequence to many of us.

Well said Skip. The 'look at me' crowd really has no bearing on what I do. My main concern for the last couples years surely hasn't been other chasers, it's been the lack of chase opportunities.
 
Did the roadblocks near Salina on 4/14/12 prevent dozens of people from getting great footage/pictures? Not in the slightest.

Are you talking about police roadblocks or the yellow lighted whacker jackoffs who took it upon themselves to create their own roadblocks? For example the retard who decided he was going to singlehandedly block off I-135 northbound, causing a 20 mile backup..
 
Are you talking about police roadblocks or the yellow lighted whacker jackoffs who took it upon themselves to create their own roadblocks? For example the retard who decided he was going to singlehandedly block off I-135 northbound, causing a 20 mile backup..

I would love to see video or pictures of this, because it's exactly the type of thing that needs to be used as an example of what not to do.

I usually wave down cars driving near a tornado and explain the situation exactly without mincing words. If they choose to take my warning and do something stupid that's on them, but if I block the road and force them into a decision and something bad happens anyways, then I'm decidedly to blame.
 
I would love to see video or pictures of this, because it's exactly the type of thing that needs to be used as an example of what not to do.

I usually wave down cars driving near a tornado and explain the situation exactly without mincing words. If they choose to take my warning and do something stupid that's on them, but if I block the road and force them into a decision and something bad happens anyways, then I'm decidedly to blame.

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This was my experience on 4-14-12

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