Ignorance of few affect the many

Hey, I was "in a tornado" once, and sold the video, too... so put all the blame on me, not Reed ;)

I probably would have been in the Wakita tor, too (not really), if it had not been for a blown tire near Harper, KS...
 
Don't know if this is old news but I just noticed this morning that The Weather Channel is promoting a new special called "Storm Chasers Getting Too Close to the Storm," or something similar. It will be interesting to see their take since they have not been critical of any such activity before. In fact, they have ignored similar activities while covering scientific / intercept projects supporting such tactics with third parties.

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Tornado chasing is dangerous, end of story. Weather can turn on a dime, and other dangers such as huge hail and unexpected flash floods add to the dangers.

Tornado chasing is no more dangerous then going to the zoo... when you look at lions and bears from outside the cage you are safe. IF you jump in the cage then well it's on you.... Every storm has a safe way to chase it. Sure if you always take the safe route you will get less intercepts then a maniac does, but you WILL get tornadoes taking the safe route.....
 
Tornado chasing is no more dangerous then going to the zoo... when you look at lions and bears from outside the cage you are safe. IF you jump in the cage then well it's on you.... Every storm has a safe way to chase it. Sure if you always take the safe route you will get less intercepts then a maniac does, but you WILL get tornadoes taking the safe route.....

I agree with you except for one huge difference: The zoo has walls, signs, and fences to keep the spectators and the beast separated. They have to design their enclosures for the stupidest person that might pass through the zoo.

The fences in stormchasing are the self-imposed safe distances that you keep from the tornado, meso, and core. The signs are also there, but they take some time and experience to learn how to read.

I think that's what all this boils down to; did the tour SUV driver know how to read the signs? Or did they choose to ignore the signs? We may never know the truth.

I don't know why everyone else chases but I can tell you that I chase for the thrill of it. There are other ways to get thrills such as rock climbing, hang gliding, skydiving, auto racing, etc... What sets storm chasing apart in my opinion is the level of intellectual commitment that is required. You have to invest a lot of time, energy, and study just to see a tornado safely. There are no written procedures, no blueprints, no 'starter kit', no difficulty levels (novice, intermediate, expert) to work through, etc... It's a hobby for people with the willingness to do some studying, fail a bunch of times, and utilize some common sense.

Also, common sense is no substitute for experience and experience is no substitute for common sense. From what I saw in that video, one of them was missing. I'm just not sure which one it was.
 
I just have to say, the only thing I'm taking away from this thread is that one tour company is trying to seize on an honest mistake by another tour company. Egomania at it's worst IMO, and it's the dark side of storm chasing that in a way, makes my sick to my stomach. Storm chasing has now officially become a business for quite a few people, and the level of animosity, competition, and mudslinging is a joke. But I guess it's human nature, especially when a buck is involved.
 
Perhaps this incident will cause storm chasing tours, as well as storm chasers, to look into modifications to their vehicles that will keep them safer should things go wrong. Does anyone have something like this: http://www.windowarmor.com on their side windows? This would certainly help prevent flying glass inside the vehicle, from both wind and hail damage. The window may break, but it will stay intact.
Yes, I have security laminate on all my windows and doubled up (inside and out) on the back three windows. I was in the same winds as the EF5! van and came out without a single window lost. All I had was a twig stuck in one windshield wiper. I would highly recommend this mod for your vehicle!
 
Yes, I have security laminate on all my windows and doubled up (inside and out) on the back three windows. I was in the same winds as the EF5! van and came out without a single window lost. All I had was a twig stuck in one windshield wiper. I would highly recommend this mod for your vehicle!

Note that if you are ever in an automobile accident, this may make extraction from your car much more difficult and time consuming. It may be worth the tradeoff, but for the most part broken windows are annoying but rarely fatal, whereas being trapped in a burning or sinking car (or just being trapped while you bleed to death) can be a bit more of a problem.

I say that as a fan of your Rhino, BTW, which is the least ugly and most badass hailproofing of a car I've seen. But it might not be for everyone.
 
I like how they are blaming all this on "other chasers blocking the road" and "did not have any data for 15 min".

Show me where I blamed it on anyone else, or where I said I didn't take responisbility for my actions...

I love how everyone is a critic.
 
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Jim says they couldn't get out of the way fast enough because of all traffic jam caused by all the chasers.

Both Jim and Kris say they got into chasing for the science. Neither are trained meteorologists, but say they've learned a lot about meteorology from storm chasing. Kris is a trained storm spotter for the Grayson County, Texas National Weather Service office.

When asked if they put themselves too close to the eye of the storm, both say no. But they agree that the new crop of chasers do.

Not you, but Jim. (*edit* -- the article is poorly written; are you and Jim affiliated in any way?)

Don't think you were too close? YOU WERE HIT BY A MULTIVORTEX!

"I didn't open my main parachute too late, though I did bounce off the ground going 80 miles per hour. If that hill hadn't come up on me so fast, it totally would have opened in time!"
 
I like how they are blaming all this on "other chasers blocking the road" and "did not have any data for 15 min".

I read that, I didn't quite understand what "did not have any data for 15 min" had to do with anything. Have some people become that dependent on technology that without it they don't know how to continue chasing? When are on a storm, look out the window. Your eyes will be way more useful at that point than what you see on a 5+ minute old radar image.

I just don't understand people blaming no data for their mishap. If not having data and radar is getting people caught in tornadoes, than perhaps they should go back and do more studying before going out chasing.
 
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