Long-Time GPS Users: still buying maps?

I've carried all the "Roads Of" and several Gazetters in a duffle bag for years. With GPS, I haven't used them very often. (I can think of one time in six years.) I also carry a plain jane Rand-McNalley Road Altas up front, wedged between the console and the passenger seat.

Tonight I realized my Rand-McNalley was five years old so I went to Target for a new one, and on my way out was thinking that my Roads Of and Gazetters are even older. I can't remember the last new one I bought. They're not cheap either, so replacing them isn't pain-free, like the $5 Rand McNalley.

Anybody else who has used GPS for years still replacing your Roads Of and Gazetters?
 
I just purchase some Atlas & Gazetter this month from a bookstore.

Illinois Atlas & Gazetteer: Fourth Edition: Copyright 2003
Iowa Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2001
Kansas Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2003
Minnesota Atlas & Gazetteer: Fourth Edition: Copyright 2003
Missouri Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2002
Nebraska Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2000
Oklahoma Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2003
South Dakota Atlas & Gazetteer: Second Edition: Copyright 2001
Texas Atlas & Gazetteer: Fifth Edition: Copyright 2003

The Roads of Oklahoma: Copyright 1997
The Roads of Texas: Copyright 1995

Best Road Atlas out there:
Rand McNally The Road Atlas 05 Large Scale

Mike
 
As much as I like my GPS I am the king of poorly timed catastrophic electronic failure. I always like to have a "Roads of" or similar detailed map of whatever state I frequent. This last year I can think of numerous occasions when even with the GPS running I was grabbing for the maps to double check roads, find smaller roads, clarify pavement vs. dirt roads, and to just get the big picture.

Even when doing school work out in the field there is nothing better than a brunton compass and paper map. Technology is sure nice but it is always good to have a back up and know how to use that paper map!!

Graham Butler
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Always depend on paper maps 1st - but this year Im going to get into the gps delorme as Ive found a simple one (street maps 2004 delorme) that powers up quickly and locks in fast to the satellite (or appears to)
Im ditching my new delorme set 2004Topo Series because it wont locate any satellites for some reason (probably a comport problem) besides there arent any reasons to look for mountains in OK!
 
I still prefer paper maps (roads of, delorme) over the delorme gps unit. Having both is optimal, though. Like Graham mentioned, the atlases are much better at giving the bigger picture and are great for thinking/planning ahead. I can sit and "read" a good map for hours ... like it was a good book.

BTW, check out the new google maps page: http://maps.google.com/

Walker
 
Yeah Amos, I plan to go to GPS this season, but have no intention of bailing on my map books. Cause as mentioned, electric failure can happen any time, and even as it may be hard to update your books more than once or twice every 10 years, it is definately worth having just in case. I won't give up my map books, and use them sparingly even now, but definately nice to have just in case.
 
I agree with everybody here. I'm not suggesting throwing the paper maps away. I carry mine everywhere I go---they never leave the vehicle. I have Roads of and Gazetters for all of Tornado Alley and the upper midwest.

What I was wondering is if people who are using GPS as their primary navigation means are still replacing (updating) their paper map collection. In other words, do those who rely on GPS almost exclusively still go and buy new versions of Gazetters or Delorme (sounds like no new Roads Of in a long time)?
 
Paper maps still rule here, have GPS and electronic maps but the great thing about paper maps is you can scribble notes on them.
I recently went out and purchased a whole load of new uk 1 1/4 inch to the mile maps.£ 5.00 a hit .
 
I have not used a GPS yet, but haven't chased much unfamiliar territory either. Amos, I think if I make the switch to GPS as the main tool, I would update my maps little by little. Possibly every few years at least.

Most rural areas aren't going to see much in the way of changes, and since that's probably where the majority of use comes in, I wouldn't get too crazy replacing each and every map. Those are my initial thoughts anyway. I usually end up tearing it, losing it, lending it, or spilling something on a map so it has to be replaced after a few years anyway.

Tim
 
I wont go anywhere without my "Roads Of" maps plus a few small laminated state maps for quick reference.

The GPS is great but it doesnt show all the roads. there are things that "Roads of" will show that nbobody else does plus you never know when your GPS will lose signal or your laptop crashes. I always want a paper backup. plus if you are alone it is easy to just grab a small map and get your bearings.
 
LOL. I will assume some of these replies are a little revenge for my occasionally "redirecting" a topic over in the Everywhere Else forum last fall. :D

I definitely respect the paper maps, want to keep them, carry them everywhere (they're about to go to Arbys with me!). I can't say I have nostalgia for the bygone days of scrambling through pages to find where Johnson County ended and where Hood County begins, or where I am in either one, or how I can keep looking with this big diesel coming at me---WHOA. But maps versus GPS is a matter of personal preference. When I'm stopped and trying to plan the next option and want to stay outside, I take the map and lay it out on the hood. I bring the Rand-McNalley into the motel with me at night to get a big-picture feel for the next day's area. Paper maps are indispensible.

But let me restate this since we all agree on their value: How often do you replace your paper maps?

I tend to agree with Tim that every couple years makes sense--maybe as many as four?
 
I agree with the value of paper maps... For me, it's MUCH easier for me to pop open a Delorme Atlas book and quickly look at a part of a particular state (e.g. for picking a general target, etc) than it is to zoom in/out, pan, etc, around Street Atlas 2005. The fact that the Atlas and Gaz. is twice the size (physically) than my computer screen makes it easier to get an 'eyeball' look at something...

As for the length of time before replacement... I wouldn't be afraid to go 4-5 years, considering that I only really use my paper maps for 'eyeballing'... Sure, the old maps may not have some new small roads on them, but I use my GPS for street-by-street navigation, so small-road accuracy isn't important in a paper map (for me atleast). Usually, interstate or state highway construction projects take several years, so a major rerouting of a major road doesn't happen very much... My OK and MN Atlas and Gaz. are both ~4yrs old, and I don't really have any intentions on replacing them, unless they reroute I-35 in a couple of months...
 
I still replace my Rand McNally Road Atlas every year. I replace the "Roads of" maps whenever I notice a new edition ( I don't think they revise them every year, but I could be wrong). After all, there could be that one new road I need that might be on a new map :lol:

GPS is great, but I still use maps for planning and just getting a good understanding of the road network.
 
Originally posted by Amos Magliocco
But let me restate this since we all agree on their value: How often do you replace your paper maps?

I tend to agree with Tim that every couple years makes sense--maybe as many as four?

Guess I missed the target of this one :oops:

I replace mine about every 2 years barring any damage to the maps.
 
Originally posted by Jay McCoy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jay McCoy)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Amos Magliocco
But let me restate this since we all agree on their value: How often do you replace your paper maps?

I tend to agree with Tim that every couple years makes sense--maybe as many as four?

Guess I missed the target of this one :oops:

I replace mine about every 2 years barring any damage to the maps.[/b]

Damage to the maps is something I'd forgotten about. The Rand-McNalleys still get good and beat up because I'm constantly grabbing it out of the spot between the console and the passenger seat, but the others are safe and sound in the duffle bag in the back.

Those old Roads Of and Gazetters took a beating back in the day, however. I was chasing in Wichita Falls, Texas the only time my GPS failed me, about four years ago. The whole laptop died, so it wasn't really a GPS issue, but there I was. Normally Wichita Falls is okay if you stay on the highway and get from one end to the other, but I was OFF 287, actually chasing a storm I thought was about to tornado in in the city itself.

I had never exited 287 at SPS for anything other than food or gas, and lots of Texas chasers can tell you that it's not the easiest town to navigate. Half the time you get lost just trying to re-enter the highway. So when my laptop crapped out, I reached in the backseat, unzipped the duffle bag, and dug for my Roads of Texas (not the greatest for towns, really). When I pulled it from the stack, it fell apart, cover and pages and all. LOL. Needless to say, the storm got away.
 
I tend to keep my maps until all the pages start falling out - for the Rand McNally Road Atlas that tends to be every 3 years or so. The Atlas and Gazetteer series I have are going on their 5th year now and are still in pretty good shape. For me updating the Atlas and Gazetteer is not as much of a priority since the state highways and secondary roads tend not to change that much....at least not as much as the main US Highways and Interstates do. I recall back in 1999 realizing my copy of the Rand McNally Road Atlas was too old when it didn't have US 400 on it.
 
I keep the "Roads of..." of KS, TX and OK behind the seat. My TX one is held together with duct tape...They haven't had much use since the GPS became a part of my family....However, I have purchased and heavily used the laminated Rand McNally state maps. I can try to ready those while driving more easily and more quickly than zooming in/out on the GPS maps...GF
 
I still have my original Roads of Texas. At least most of it. It looks like something the dog spit up. I think I got it in 90 or 91
I have a stack of Roads of/Gazetteers in all different conditions about 8 inches high.
 
I still have my original Roads of Texas. At least most of it. It looks like something the dog spit up. I think I got it in 90 or 91
I have a stack of Roads of/Gazetteers in all different conditions about 8 inches high.

Sounds like mine. :lol: I think this year I am going to have to replace it finally. I keep a few state maps I chase in the most and get a new Rand McNally every year for free from the insurance company.

Street Atlas has been my primary guide for a few years now. This year I also have Topo so I am interested in testing some theories with this.
 
my dad still has a ton of road maps of the midwest from the 1970s..still refuses to get a current one. :roll:
 
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