Chase vehicle options

Like Jeff mentions above, Dan's point is exactly right IMO. Choose a vehicle that fits your everyday needs. For me, I chase in a 4cyl 2005 Honda Accord. I easily get 500+ miles to a (15 gal) tank. In everyday mixed driving I average in the low/mid 30's for mpg, and on long trips it's plenty comfortable and has all the space I need for a laptop mount, camera, food, and misc items.
 
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I have chased with a Ford Escape for two years now and I think it's about the perfect setup for chasing. It gives you room inside and also isn't huge to kill gas mileage. I average out to around 21MPG with the 3.0L engine in it and I have the AWD. The other nice thing is that the escape is a pretty standard vehicle so for many mounts and other wiring and optional chasing equipment, there is an adapter especially for the escape.
 
I've got a daily driver 1990 Audi 200 Turbo Quattro that was bought for the lofty sum of $1100...it has working electronic climate control (ICY A/C), heated leather, a dead silent interior, about 260hp with a chip to raise boost, and pulls down 33mpg on the freeway...oh, and it's got AWD! The maintenance isn't for the faint of heart, but I haven't had to do anything to it other than change oil since the spring...if it dies, I've gotten my use out of it. If it gets hailed on, I don't care either! It's a nice no-nonsense alternative to the toy...

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1990 Audi 80 Quattro with a turbo motor swap and 350hp! :D

Sam
 
Cool Audi!!! I just wanted to add- one of the deciding factors for me, what ever vehicle I get, I need to have the ability to have it worked one. Now like I mentioned before I would love to have a Subaru but my nearest dealer is about 200 miles away. I bet if I would pull up to my local mechanic he would go "You need what!" Living in rural America has it advantages and disadvantages. Those of you with the rice grinders, do you have problems getting things fixed while out chasing. Now don't tell me they don't break down, because I know some do. The dealers in my area are Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Honda(60 miles away). The Chevy dealer in town has a 2004 Honda Element for 14,900 but that is a little out of my range.

Thanks everyone for all the feedback
Cory
 
When I bought my 'rice rocket' Honda, I paid and additional $1000 for 100% bumper-to-bumper coverage for the next five years. If I don't have to use it in that time, they will automatically send me all of it back - without asking or pursuing them. That also covers towing to the nearest dealership - anywhere in the contiguous US of A.

I bought a Honda because I know they are built/engineered as good as aircraft is. They don't want anything to fall out of the sky - either!
 
Call me crazy, but I'm considering getting a Mercedes for a chase vehicle. My son bought a 1998 Mercedes 300TE wagon and that thing is built like a tank and gets decent gas mileage. After doing a bit of research, I found that these old 300 series cars are the next best thing to bulletproof. His has about 100k miles but still runs and drives like a brand new car 20 years later. And it is comfortable as crap, which is very important when you are on the road for days on end.

What amazes me is how cheap you can get some of these old Mercedes for. My son bought his for $3200 from the original owner who kept it in his garage.

BTW, I have also been considering the Subarus as well. We had a 1990 Legacy AWD Turbo, that thing was a heck of a car. The only problem was parts were high as crap because we could not get a lot of them anywhere except the dealer. Same goes for Mercedes. But I guess if a vehicle is reliable they don't sell as many parts so some of the places like Autozone have little incentive to stock much.
 
Ah....the choices.

OK, let's get something straight....OUTBACK. It's a version...not a model. Subaru Outback is available in two of their car models. There's the Legacy Outback, and the Impreza Outback. The Legacy Outback is too big..and the ground clearance is useless because the front and rear overhangs (distance in front of the front wheels, and the back, behind the rear wheels) is terrible. They also have the same exact engine as the Forrester, with much more weight to pull around.....skip the larger Legacy Outback all together. If you go Subaru, use the Forrester or Impreza Outback if space isn't a major issue.

Otherwise try to stick with American or commonly maintained vehicles that folks in the plains and other chase territories are familiar with.

Mercedes (Volvo, Saab, BWM, Audi, etc) idea is bad...they are extremely expensive to maintain...even in general terms. And again, many repair shops will be unfamiliar or charge more. Even oil changes can (but not always) cost more.

Van wise....go with the Honda Odyssey (except the original 4cylinder version). Gets the best Van mileage, however they are expensive and like most Hondas, they have thinner sheet metal, and dent easier. New Dodge Caravans have better mileage then Toyota Sienna, but older (Grand) Caravans can be a real bargain, what you save on cost, will make up on the slight decrease in mileage. 2005 and up Caravans can be purchased with Stow-n-go which make those vans more stable and better "Bob's Road" vehicle than the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Avoid GM minivans as they tend to be mechically challenging. Same with Ford...especially the front ends.

Don't totally give up the idea of a large SUV....just find a good deal. Consider the mileage you'll drive it a year. Buying a $5000 SUV versus and $8000 Subaru and spending the difference on gas might be the better choice. I've found $3000 Tahoes (4wheel drive) in good condition. If you negotiate wheel, and put pressure on those trying to sell, you can get a deal...SUVs are extremely unpopular, so expect and demand well below book value. (added thought) Also remember, that many SUVs have great range because of the large gas tanks. So you won't miss something because you had to refuel in the middle of a chase. I wouldn't buy anything with a range of less than 300 miles.

Better yet....go with regular sedan. A midsize sedan with suffient trunk space will do just fine. I've always admired Scott Blairs Taurus's (or is it Tauri?). You can get good driver and passenger space, decent mileage, and still have plenty of storage space. Plus they look low key and won't draw the unwanted followers while chasing. You can still take the wife/girlfriend out if you keep the chase gear in the trunk off-season (or down days).

Also, depending on how much you plan to alter, upgrade the vehicle...consider and check into aftermarket parts. Cold-air filters and other items that help the fuel economy. How about better tires and wheels. Chase hurricanes, or play in the mud, consider a vehicle that can be outfitted with a snorkel kit.

Myself....I think I'm going back to old skool...with a Jeep Cherokee. But then again I like to tinker, build, and push my vehicles to the limit. I also use my vehicles in snow and mud in addition to tornado and hurricane chases. I also use my vehicles for ham radio VHF contests, and other field events. I tend to use my vehicles as mobile command units, and other emergency communication units. And the next chase vehicle will try to be low key from the exterior....with all chaser related exterior elements removed. I also would like to have a decent sound system. Yeah a tall order.

The last recommendation....to just buy yourself the car you want if you didn't chase....and rent cars/trucks/vans to chase in...then you can change vehicle types based on your chase needs. Maybe you can get that convertible you always wanted.
 
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Slightly off the main topic here, but whatever...
Wesley, it's ironic that you mentioned a 300TE - I used to chase in one! My first car/chase vehicle was a 1990 Mercedes 300TE 4MATIC AWD wagon. It was a fantastic car, built like a tank, as you mentioned, (I drove it through a nasty golf ball size, ten minute duration hail core one time and did not get a SINGLE dent) and it got pretty decent gas mileage on the highway, around 24 mpg. Oh, and the 4MATIC kicked a$$ - I got into some pretty hairy situations a couple times on sloppy dirt roads, but it just plowed right through as if the road was bone dry.:D

But sadly it had not been properly taken care of, and as with any car, but especially true of the European makes, if the maintenance schedule hasn't been followed, be prepared for MAJOR repair bills. I found that out the hard way with my 300TE, and because of that I wound up getting rid of it. It was a classy and comfortable ride, and it was an awesome road trip vehicle, but I just couldn't afford to keep it on the road.:(
If you do decide to pick one up, don't touch one without at least partial, if not complete maintenance records.
And while I'm on the subject of Europeans makes, a little known fact - Saab is actually a division of General Motors, has been for about 15 years now, and you CAN get a Saab worked on at GM Goodwrench facilities.

Something else to mention - Cory mentioned earlier in the thread that he has two newer 'daily driver' vehicles, but he doesn't want to beat them up chasing. He's looking for a vehicle SPECIFICALLY FOR CHASING.

Just thought I should clarify that for everyone.:)

Anyway, back on topic.

Cory,
You wouldn't necessarily have to take your Subaru to the dealership to get work done on it. In fact, if you can possibly help it, I would avoid going to the stealership all together - they will rip you off MAJORLY on parts and labor.
There is a major (and somewhat dated) misconception among chasers that there are no places to get an import vehicle worked on out in the Great Plains, so your only choice is to buy American.
This is not true.
While in decades past the odds of finding a shop that would work on imports on the Great Plains was not particularly good, it is a very different story today.
There is almost always at least one import repair shop in the larger towns (<5000 in population) out in Tornado Alley who will do work on Japanese and occasionally European import vehicles.
And with the amount of Japanese cars on the road today across the country, even some of the repair shops in the smaller towns now carry at least some basic parts for the major Japanese makes like Toyota's, Honda's, Subaru's etc. And if they don't have the parts in stock, they can get them a lot more quickly than you would expect.
For example, in southwestern Nebraska, there is a repair shop that actually specializes in Japanese cars in North Platte.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to call the repair shops in and around the Imperial/Grant/Ogallala area to see if any of them would do work on imports - I think you might be pleasantly surprised at what you find out. :cool:
 
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I got rid of my Chevy Tahoe a month or two ago where I typically got 15mpg on a chase and bought a new Suzuki SX4 crossover with AWD. I went out after Ike day before yesterday and was getting 29.4 hwy and it should improve more especially after break in, I switch to synthetic oil, put in K&N filter and maybe a different air intake.
http://www.suzukiauto.com/sx4_crossover/tour/

It's quite a bit smaller than the Tahoe of course, but it seems to be a good running flexible vehicle. I think I can put all my chase equipment in, but I have to mess around with trying to juggle the mounts a bit. I can't really take 5 people anymore but it's usually only myself or 1 other person. I believe me and a couple others may fit now, but it will be a bit tight.

I just got tired of repair bills and paying 'the man' for gas.
 
I put a lot of miles on my vehicle, and my F150 was due for being replaced this past winter. With the continued rise in gas prices, I was looking for something that got better mileage, as well as the ability to carry additional passengers. I didn't really want to give up the AWD capability, so I decided to go into the small suv market. The three choices that stood out were:

Toyota Rav4
Honda CRV
Ford Escape

I went on a chase vacation for a couple of weeks with a friend who owns a CRV, and it was just fine. Plenty of room for 3 of us. With 4 it started to get a bit tight but still ok. Honestly, any of the 3 would be a pretty nice chase vehicle.

I should mention that I also tow a trailer at times, so I wanted a more powerful (V-6) engine to handle that. I eventually narrowed the search to the Toyota and the Ford and the price difference on used vehicles was very dramatic so I went with the Escape. They aren't as nice comfort-wise as the Rav4, but they cost less and get similar gas mileage. I do miss the carrying capacity the truck had at times, but I went from 16mpg to 21mpg. Those that get the 4-cylinder seem to be getting mid to upper 20s. There are a TON of Escapes out there, so you can find a pretty good deal on fairly new/low mileage vehicle.
 
I've always chased in a Honda Civic. I strongly support the point that you buy an everyday vehicle first and chasing is secondary with it. With any mounted equipment, it's difficult to have two people in the front seat. Not having much room for anything mounted is it's biggest drawback. But not enough for me to get 10MPG less for the 350 non chasing days per year.
 
Those of you with the rice grinders, do you have problems getting things fixed while out chasing. Now don't tell me they don't break down, because I know some do.

Hate to break it to ya, but they don't:D. The last 3 cars I've owned, all bought brand new, and all had regular scheduled maintenance performed by me or by a Honda dealer.
1993 Honda Civic EX, put 140,000 miles on it. Only major problem was a clutch failure at 110,000 miles that stranded me 2 miles from work.
1998 Honda Accord EX, put 120,000 miles on it. Only problem was that the auto gear shift froze at the top of Loveland Pass (11k ft) for 10 minutes until I figured out how to work the manual override. Dealer fixed as part of extended warranty.
2005 Honda Accord EX, currently has 58k miles. Had to replace a tire at 10k miles, but that's b/c I drove over a piece of metal the size of a sharpie marker, and the battery at 50k miles, but that's b/c an interior light was left on for 36 hours, but the dealer warrantied it anyway even though I truthfully told them why. Original tires still have 4/32 tread, but I'll replace those before end of year.

My father is on his 4th Accord in 25 years, none of which have ever stranded him or had a problem that has kept it out of service for more than a day. My neighbors have a 1998 Accord with 150k miles on it that has never left them stranded. If you take care of these cars, they will return the favor.
 
VW

If I could get my dad to sell me his 2005 VW Passat Turbo Diesel Wagon I would buy it. I ran around Michigan in it this summer and was getting 44 mpg on the highway and the worst was 33 mph in the city. I was impressed how well it drove.
 
I drive a Ford Taurus front wheel drive and ive been able to get it out of some of the craziest canadian winters we have had up here! but dont let it run out of oil like i did....
 
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