Weather Wiki

I recall somone had/has a weather wiki. How difficult is it to setup a wiki? While forums are a great method of communication, I believe that setting up a storm report wiki would be ideal for this type of information.

In my mind, there would be a general summary for each chase day with general storms outlined etc. The key component of this wiki would be the ability to have everyone modify the wiki to include links to their chase reports/pictures.

Thoughts?

Aaron
 
Actually, I really like this idea. It would allow a user to narrow down storms by date, event type, location, etc.. It's also beneficial because you have one central "hub" for events, which could include radar screen shots, analysis information, chase accounts, links to chasers blogs, etc..

I also see benefits of a "wiki" for case study information for significant meteorological events (tornadoes, hurricanes, blizzards, etc.).

http://stormwiki.unk.edu/index.php/StormWiki:About
 
This idea really does have alot of potential. Think about it.... an archive of virtually every severe weather case, built as they happen. Start throwing in pictures and links to case studies and chase logs, and you would have the ability to lump all kinds of information about a day together. I think this is something that really should be looked into... and we should try and give it a test run by this coming spring storm season.

After looking into what it would take just a bit, we'd need a place that probably has a dedicated server or server cluster that could handle this... thats assuming that it takes off and becomes frequently used.
 
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I personally have having a hard time understanding what would be the difference between a regular forum (such as this) vs. the wiki thing. I have never used wiki, so perhaps I am being a little to bias towards the pro/cons to the idea. Simply having anyone come in at anytime and change the information doesn’t sound very positive when referring to accurate information. Well, I guess it depended on what steps the wiki site master took in order to maintain the integrity of the information.

What would really be so much better about the wiki vs. a forum? Just curious…

Mick
 
Mainly as a one-stop summary of chase days. For instance:

29 May 2004

Synopsis:
(brief discussion of the day's events)

Individual storms:
Details about noteworthy storms on the day

Chase Reports:
Links to every chaser that was out on the day.

Additional information:
Links to say the SPC thunderstorm database, LSRs, event summaries from NWSFOs etc.

Vandalism isn't neccesarily too large of a problem. Users would still be required to have an account, and if an individual starts destroying things, they can be banned.
 
Something like that could be very neat! To help with what Mickey was pointing out, you could set it to where only certain members could edit the synopsis and individual storm sections, that way people with a true understanding of what occurred could cover those sections. Then you basic member could simply edit it to add in their link or any other link to a chasers webpage of the day.

Sounds like you may have landed on something Aaron!
 
Pbwiki site

We are using PbWiki as a vehicle for web-based training development. It works well for virtual teams. Your own Wiki page is free (initally) and easy to set up. It allows uploading of images and files. You can have layers of pages.

Check it out at http://pbwiki.com
 
To my suprise, someone had already started this entry into Wikipedia, I just added the chaser links and some tornado information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota-Minnesota_Tornado_Outbreak_of_August_2006

I certainly think this would be something we could all benefit from. Not to long ago I was putting a lot of thought into some sort of chaser search engine, that you would crawl all known chaser sites and index their chase reports. Then someone could type 'mini-supercell' for instance and get a complete record (that which is on the internet) of all the different mini-supercell releated chase reports. Of course a date indexed Wiki would be even better but would need to have a lot of participation (or just a couple people working really really hard).
 
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I love this concept. Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? Oh, right...someone has to volunteer the time and effort. I certainly would contribute entries, given the opportunity. The only difficulty I see is with entries submitted by uninformed (and by uninformed, I mean truly uninformed) weather observers (scud reported as a tornado, etc.), but this difficulty exists on every reports forum. I say go for it.
 
I personally have having a hard time understanding what would be the difference between a regular forum (such as this) vs. the wiki thing. I have never used wiki, so perhaps I am being a little to bias towards the pro/cons to the idea. Simply having anyone come in at anytime and change the information doesn’t sound very positive when referring to accurate information. Well, I guess it depended on what steps the wiki site master took in order to maintain the integrity of the information.

What would really be so much better about the wiki vs. a forum? Just curious…

Mick


Have you ever used wikipedia? It is for the most part a great resource. This would be just like that, but primarily for important weather days. The ability of users to edit and add content is what makes it work so well. It's one of those things where you'd think it would be full of falsehoods and problems.... but it generally works well. Wikipedia is updated by users, and policed by users. Users who violate rules and vandalise pages are banned. I really think that this is something that should be looked into as a one-stop archive for big weather. The possible uses for this really are unlimited... i cant possibly list them all.
 
What if two chasers on the same storm have completely different perspectives of what happened? Which chaser's account would end up as the 'official' record of the event? I think it's a cool idea, but just curious how it would be organized.
 
What if two chasers on the same storm have completely different perspectives of what happened? Which chaser's account would end up as the 'official' record of the event? I think it's a cool idea, but just curious how it would be organized.

It could be posted that there were two different accounts of the storm. The more information the better. There isn't always a "right" answer in science anyway.
 
TornadoWiki

Hello,

I saw the post of Aaron and the others and I decided to look if I can install it. It took me two hours to learn the Wiki software and two to install on my production server.

Here we go:

http://84.43.158.75/wiki/

I will be very glad if you start to maintain it.

:)


Cheers,

Angel
 
Angel, Wow, thats awesome of you to volunteer server space for this new wiki. I hope that many here will jump aboard to build up the largest event-based weather wiki on the net. Thanks again for jumpstarting this project!
 
Hi Jeffrey,

It's real fun for me to play with Linux, MySQL, PHP and the other tools. Let see how much resources will use this wiki. Spread the word about the new Wiki:)

Cheers,

Angel
 
TornadoWiki

I also will add the information about our bulgarian tornadoes:)

Angel
 
Very generous of you to volunteer your time, Angel! It'll probably be a while before I can organize some content to submit, but I look forward to it. Thanks.
 
For this wiki to be usable and become well known, we will definitely have to setup standards, just like that of wikipedia. Not necessarily right down to every detail, but at least a pretty large set of structure standards to the articles so there is consistency between the events.
 
hi Paul and Scott

Thank you for your interest!

Please tell me how to organize the Wiki. Any ideas are welcome. I started to write down the events in YYYY.MM.DD style. If you don't like it, then we can change it to some other. The language will be only English, I added some bulgarian text, which I have from our bulgarian newspapers, so this is exception, not standard. If you have some information and don't have time to load it into the Wiki, just send it to me on mail and I will organize it. It will be really nice if we can make it more popular.

Angel
 
I did some work to the wiki over the past 24 hours. Made up a template for what a standard page should look like. Set up a few example categories we can use to link events together. Check it out - if the template has any obvious grammatical or spelling errors, go ahead and correct them. Any ideas for making the template better? throw them on the talk page so we can figure out how to make these articles short and too the point, yet useful.
I think we should talk about changing the name from "tornadowiki" to something like "Storm Event Wiki" or something similar... reflecting that it is not just about tornadoes, but more about characterizing days with severe weather.
 
Scott,

Thanks for your contribution.

About the name, yes we can change it, I just prefer to keep it shorter.

Angel
 
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