jeremy wilson
Insult to injury!?! You dang yanks need a big ole dose of southern plains heat!
It has cooled down to a whopping 95 here over recent days but come on, give me some of those 70 degree days with rain!
Record Cold
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Insult to injury!?! You dang yanks need a big ole dose of southern plains heat!
It has cooled down to a whopping 95 here over recent days but come on, give me some of those 70 degree days with rain!
mikegeukes
EF5
RECORD COLD JULY
Grand Rapids broke the all time record for the coldest July with a mean temperature of 67.1 degrees.
This is one tenth of a degree below the previous record coldest July of 67.2 degrees, which occurred in 1992.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=grr&storyid=30077&source=0
Mike
Grand Rapids broke the all time record for the coldest July with a mean temperature of 67.1 degrees.
This is one tenth of a degree below the previous record coldest July of 67.2 degrees, which occurred in 1992.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=grr&storyid=30077&source=0
Mike
Justin Wiley
EF1
All the record cold should help aid all of the global warming theories out there. 
Jeff Snyder
EF5
All the record cold should help aid all of the global warming theories out there.
Interestingly, I don't recall anyone in this thread blaming global warming for the record HIGH temperatures in the west (and in the southern Plains in late June and early July). One specific part of the U.S. (much less one specific part of the world) over one MONTH (or season, even) does NOT have much to do with climate anomalies, much less GLOBAL CLIMATE anomalies. Sure, I bet some less-informed people are "blaming" the heat in the west (>100F in the Pac NW and southwestern Canada) on global warming, but there are plenty of ill-informed people who blame all sorts of stuff on all sorts of processes. I'm not sure you'll find any reputable, well-informed person/meteorlogist/climatologist blame any local, short-term weather pattern (precip, temperature, etc.) on global climate change. Likewise, you shouldn't blame use any local, short-term weather anomaly as evidence AGAINST systematic climate anomalies (i.e. effects of global climate change).
This whole climate deal is about a mean, gently-sloping SIGNAL that is added to a more chaotic NOISE. If you have random noise, you WILL get anomalously cool weather at times and, heck, you may even have record cool weather. However, in the mean (both in time and space), the trend in the signal should become evident as the noise "zeroes out".
/ Did I really just help threadjack? Ugh
// No slashies on this site? My bad.
tom hanlon
EF2
Record cold July here in Ohio, I love it.
I wish that that tracking global climate change was as easy as taking the average temperature in Columbus, OH in July. If the systems involved where that simple than tornado chasing would be easy as well. The SPC would announce the tornado in advance. "EF3 McCook Nebraska will occur on May 2, 2010 should be a nice photogenic trunk, with good backlight, be there , parking will be available in a local field , restrooms, refreshments and wifi will be available. Some uncertainty remains, this may actually turn out to be an EF4 wedge"
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Tom Hanlon
I wish that that tracking global climate change was as easy as taking the average temperature in Columbus, OH in July. If the systems involved where that simple than tornado chasing would be easy as well. The SPC would announce the tornado in advance. "EF3 McCook Nebraska will occur on May 2, 2010 should be a nice photogenic trunk, with good backlight, be there , parking will be available in a local field , restrooms, refreshments and wifi will be available. Some uncertainty remains, this may actually turn out to be an EF4 wedge"
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Tom Hanlon
Ryan Wichman
EF3
Record low was set here in Quincy, IL last night and I know KDBQ tied their record low as well. Warm up is on the way though 
jshields
here in omaha we had the 5th coldest july on record with average temps 4.8 degrees below normal! we only had one day reach 90 degrees as well. it was definitely the coolest july i can remember. there were many nights where we slept with the windows open. today it was 93 though and its supposed to be near or above 90 the next week just in time for moving into my new house this weekend
Joel Wright
EF5
Here in the QC area we missed the coldest July by 0.1 degree. So July 2009 goes down as the 2nd coolest since the records began back in the 1880s at Moline. We also failed to hit 90 degrees the entire month. That's pretty astonishing in itself.
Derek Weston
EF5
This.
And on topic... we've certainly been a part of the unusually cool summer here in Iowa. My locations, Cedar Rapids, and Iowa City, did not break 90 in July. This has only happened, I believe, 5 times in the past 100 years or so...
Perhaps it's just my increasing age... but I've been quite content with 70s to lower 80s. It's quite nice, really.
Justin Wiley
EF1
My winky emoticon was supposed to inject a touch of goofiness and non-seriousness in my post. I simply made a general statement that wasn't directed at anybody in this thread, but admittedly was a somewhat random/off-topic comment.
I am fully aware that the 5th coldest July in some random point on the earth such as Omaha, Nebraska has no bearing on the entire global climate.
I just couldn't resist to point out that in the midst of "global warming" that we can have years without summers and that really nobody knows anything in terms of the global warming argument. Sure there is proof that overall the earth has warmed over the last century, but who's to know that that just isn't some natural climate change?
Maybe you just misinterpreted my dry humor or you got just a wee bit defensive about something that shouldn't have been taken so seriously.
I apologize for taking the thread off-topic and for not portraying my sense of humor more clearly.
David Wolfson
EF5
Justin said:
One will never "know", scientifically speaking, that AGW is "true". What is already known is that AGW is very likely, and that its consequences would be significant.
Since this is in the Discussion area, we need to talk a little more about what science is, I think. Unlike religion science claims no certainty; unlike politics science tries to avoid reliance on personal or collective opinions.
One will never "know", scientifically speaking, that AGW is "true". What is already known is that AGW is very likely, and that its consequences would be significant.
Stephen Levine
EF4
Between July 10 and 15th my wife and I did some traveling. Doing so, we had access to free USA Today newspapers in our motels, which of course included their weather page.
One glaring thing that I noted per this topic is the fact that during this time frame in Juneau, AK, it made it up into the low '90's, with 50's heat making it consistantly all the way to the far north coast of AK.
I believe that the normal high in summer for Juneau is low 70's, and I also believe that 50's is quite unusual for the far north coast as well.
One glaring thing that I noted per this topic is the fact that during this time frame in Juneau, AK, it made it up into the low '90's, with 50's heat making it consistantly all the way to the far north coast of AK.
I believe that the normal high in summer for Juneau is low 70's, and I also believe that 50's is quite unusual for the far north coast as well.
Chuck Hurley
I've noticed the jet stream has been stuck in a trough that's been preventing the normal temps here in central IL. It's getting to be State Fair time for us and we should be having blistering heat to fuel the lemon shakeup sales. Global warming or global cooling I just appreciate my electric bill being low for the last month.
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Stinky Saturdays
I live near Indianapolis. Besides the cold, our Saturdays were all crapouts.
July 4 - 70/63 (record min max), 1.03 of rain from about 11 AM until 7 PM. Completely ruined any grill plans.
July 11 - 78/69, 1.54" of rain. Enough said.
July 18 - 71/55 (another min max). No precip at Indy airport, but instability showers occurred in the area. I actually broke out the jeans.
July 25 - 82/64. 0.65" mostly in the morning, thankfully. Evening was decent.
No 90 degree highs, a rarity, and July was colder than June, another rarity. There is a document on the NWS IND web site with more details.
But I only ran my A/C once, so I am not complaining!
RST
I live near Indianapolis. Besides the cold, our Saturdays were all crapouts.
July 4 - 70/63 (record min max), 1.03 of rain from about 11 AM until 7 PM. Completely ruined any grill plans.
July 11 - 78/69, 1.54" of rain. Enough said.
July 18 - 71/55 (another min max). No precip at Indy airport, but instability showers occurred in the area. I actually broke out the jeans.
July 25 - 82/64. 0.65" mostly in the morning, thankfully. Evening was decent.
No 90 degree highs, a rarity, and July was colder than June, another rarity. There is a document on the NWS IND web site with more details.
But I only ran my A/C once, so I am not complaining!
RST
The results are in
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
July was indeed a cold one - Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania had their coldest Julys ever.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
July was indeed a cold one - Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania had their coldest Julys ever.
