beaudodson
EF5
Waiting for new satellite images. Pressure is up again - I believe now 924 mb or so. Should be an interesting morning ahead. Some amazing images of Rita over the past 36 hours.
NOW: Hurricane Rita
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Sam Sagnella
EF5
This is further confirmed by the pronounced southward shift in the 00z GFDL, which now has a landfall almost directly over Galveston Island. This is gonna be a big 'un.
Ryan McGinnis
EF5
Interestingly enough, there is a new double wind-maxima in the NE quad. Is this another ERC? Man, that'd be good news!
927
SXXX50 KNHC 230620
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927
SXXX50 KNHC 230620
AF309 2018A RITA HDOB 52 KNHC
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Chris Sokol
EF5
The ERC is actually in the process of completing:
Anonymous
As a Houstonian, we are terrified. Please pray for an eastern Texans/Louisiana impact.
Ryan McGinnis
EF5
Well, maybe at 11PM but current data seems to beg to differ -- would appear to be a double maxima there.
Jeff Snyder
EF5
The ERC should be NEAR completion, but not entirely completed -- thus the double wind maxima. Latest IR certainly indicates that the inner eyewall should fall apart any time now, as tops are warming. So, I still expect to see single large eye form in the next few hours. It should contract in time, and I still expect to see <915mb central pressure by noon.
David Wolfson
EF5
Just opened up from the eclipse. She looks to be pulling some dry air around the west side and moving about 310 in the general direction of Lake Charles at a little faster clip.
Justin Turcotte
EF5
To our guest... Houston is 50 feet above sea level and will NOT experience a Katrina type storm surge. If the storm were to wobble west of the forecast path than Galveston and the bay-side eastern burbs would get some water. If the storm hits as forecast than there will be 20 feet of water plowing through Sabin Lake into Port Aurther and Beaumont with their combined population of 160,000 and huge Exxon oil refinery. This isn't a situation I'd pray for. Best of luck to all Texans. Stay safe and definately don't venture out during the storm. Many people needlessly die when they are hit with trees while on foot or in a vehicle
Anonymous
Thank you very much for your concern. I am a reference of Carrie Holliday, a poster on here. I am 75 miles inland in a city called The Woodlands. She is sticking it out near Katy.
I'll capture pictures for posting when power comes back on after the weekend. Pray for the best! And I am turning to this website to read your posts, because you guys seem to know way more than some of the mumbo-jumbo weathermen around here (except for Dr. Neil Frank).
Pray for Houston
Jeff Snyder
EF5
http://www.tornadocentral.com/now/current_IR4.jpg
That nicely shows the inner eyewall dissipating. Cloud top temps have warmed per IR imagery, and pressure continues to slowly rise. I'm still banking on some reintensification once this relatively long-lasting Eyewall Replacement Cycle is over, though I'm getting less confident in my forecast with time as this process drags itself out.
That nicely shows the inner eyewall dissipating. Cloud top temps have warmed per IR imagery, and pressure continues to slowly rise. I'm still banking on some reintensification once this relatively long-lasting Eyewall Replacement Cycle is over, though I'm getting less confident in my forecast with time as this process drags itself out.
Ryan McGinnis
EF5
Looks like 126 knots max flightlevel in NE quad on most recent AF recon... vortex soon.
Ryan McGinnis
EF5
Looks like 927mb:
953
UZNT13 KNHC 230855
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61616 AF307 2118A RITA OB 08
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005 927728 WL150 22507 075 =
953
UZNT13 KNHC 230855
XXAA 73097 99267 70910 08261 99927 27604 21006 00/// ///// /////
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31313 09608 80831
61616 AF307 2118A RITA OB 08
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005 927728 WL150 22507 075 =
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33697 16000
21212 00927 21006 11850 24007 22697 34002
31313 09608 80831
61616 AF307 2118A RITA OB 08
62626 EYE SPL 2671N09100W 0834 MBL WND 23007 AEV 20507 DLM WND 24
005 927728 WL150 22507 075 =
Jeff Snyder
EF5
LOL ERC mania I guess... Latest discussion notes that the inner eyewall has finally completely dissipated, signaling the end of the nearly day-long eyewall replacement cycle. Typically cyclones strengthen when they finish an ERC, thus the reason many suspect Rita to strengthen back into the high-end Cat 4 (or even Cat 5 range). However, it was also noted that ANOTHER wind max exists outside the new/replacement eyewall. This means that we may see another ERC occur right on the heals of the one we are just finishing. If this is indeed the case, I can't imagine Rita will strengthen even <120mb given that we should see the weakening effects from the next ERC later today.
I don't think I've ever really heard of this occurring before. It obviously isn't certain yet that it will, but it's still quite a thought. Assuming the wind max has been there for more than an hour or so, this new info means that Rita actually had 3 concentric eyewalls earlier this evening. This would seem to help explain why the winds measured by recon have been considerably weaker than would otherwise be expected with a 915-920mb hurricane. Most recon reports in the last 20 hours have support a high-end Cat 3 wind at the surface, not a mid-range Cat 4 as the official advisories have been. Concentric eyewalls tend to spread out the area of high winds, presumably lowering the overall maximum wind. I'd imagine that this would be doubly true if there was indeed 3 concentric eyewalls... Additionally, I would think that this may decrease the overall surface convergence near the center, which may explain why cloud tops have cooled in the past 3-6 hours.
EDIT: It should be noted that this is based on rather limited data, so there may not actually be an 'outer' eyewall to the previous 'outer' eyewall.
I don't think I've ever really heard of this occurring before. It obviously isn't certain yet that it will, but it's still quite a thought. Assuming the wind max has been there for more than an hour or so, this new info means that Rita actually had 3 concentric eyewalls earlier this evening. This would seem to help explain why the winds measured by recon have been considerably weaker than would otherwise be expected with a 915-920mb hurricane. Most recon reports in the last 20 hours have support a high-end Cat 3 wind at the surface, not a mid-range Cat 4 as the official advisories have been. Concentric eyewalls tend to spread out the area of high winds, presumably lowering the overall maximum wind. I'd imagine that this would be doubly true if there was indeed 3 concentric eyewalls... Additionally, I would think that this may decrease the overall surface convergence near the center, which may explain why cloud tops have cooled in the past 3-6 hours.
EDIT: It should be noted that this is based on rather limited data, so there may not actually be an 'outer' eyewall to the previous 'outer' eyewall.
Mornin' ... latest IR imagery would suggest that the raggedness of the eye maybe at an end and a concentric nature is becoming more evident.
Otherwise Rita is taking a turn more northward and hopefully will end up further from Galveston, even further east of my prediction of TX/LA border ...
Not much else has changed from discussions of last night and early morning.
Honestly I believe Mr. Snyder's summary says it all ...
EDIT: latest Dvorak maybe gives more of the idea that this whole system is slowly falling apart ... coming into a stronger shear environment ... possible ingestation of drier air by the outer bands to the west of the storm ... maybe there won't be any strengthening at all ... a good thing.
Otherwise Rita is taking a turn more northward and hopefully will end up further from Galveston, even further east of my prediction of TX/LA border ...
Not much else has changed from discussions of last night and early morning.
Honestly I believe Mr. Snyder's summary says it all ...
EDIT: latest Dvorak maybe gives more of the idea that this whole system is slowly falling apart ... coming into a stronger shear environment ... possible ingestation of drier air by the outer bands to the west of the storm ... maybe there won't be any strengthening at all ... a good thing.
