Spotter Network and Delorme

I've discovered a solution to getting Delorme's serial emulator to work with Vista.

Basically, the first thing you do download Delormes serial port emulator from http://www.delorme.com/support/supporttemplate.aspx?id=319. Many of you have already done this. However, if your system is like mine and many others out there, the serial emulator is not a big friend of Vista, and doesn't seem to work. (Mine runs fine, but other applications don't actually get to see the data that it supposedly is emulating.)

What you have to do is go into the start menu, go down to the search box at the bottom, and type in "Delorme". Don't hit enter, just wait for the stuff to pop up at the top of the start window. Up there, you will see a program called "SerEmul". Right click it, and go to properties. Click the Compatibility tab. Check the box that says "run this program as an administrator", then click OK. Restart. Upon restart, Vista will tell in the lower right taskbar when you when you login that it blocked the program from running (probably a virus prevention measure). What you want to do is click the box where it tells you that, then tell it to run the program. After this, you close the Delorme Serial Emulator that resides in your taskbar and then run it again (basically, the Serial Emulator must be restarted). That's it, you're done -- it should work now. Every time you reboot you'll need to go to the taskbar and unblock the program and then restart the serial emulator, but it's not the end of the world. So far I've had no problems, though the docs that come with the program itself says that it doesn't like coming out of sleep mode. I've got it running Delorme, SN, and GR3 all at once.

The alternate, easier solution is to disable Windows User Accounts Control. But this leaves your system much more open for viruses/trojans. Personally, I prefer the short dance of commands at startup to leaving my whole computer open.

It's a shame Delorme's emulator is so poorly coded. I've sent them an email explaining the problem; hopefully they'll get around to issuing a patch one of these days.
 
I'm going to have to go through and check all my settings per some of the posts in this thread. I could NOT get SN to work with my GPS this weekend, except for every fourth or fifth attempt.

On Saturday I decided that I'd had enough ... and since we were just sitting in one spot enjoying the poofy little marshmallow clouds in Nebraska, I decided to enter my position manually. About an hour later I checked my position online and evidently I mis-entered my longitude because it had my signal parked somewhere near the Great Wall of China ... LOL. I have no idea how long it showed me on holiday in Asia -
 
I am using the Delorme Emulator with the Delorme little yellow puck GPS. You have to look at the ports that are made available by the emulator by right clicking on it in the activity bar down in the right corner of windows. You can set different ports. It's working great with several pieces of software on Vista for me EXCEPT Spotter Network.

It takes me several tries to get spotter network to connect to one of the GPS ports it creates. When it doesn't, VISTA BOSDs out and reboots itself. Even when I do get one that works, and the end of the day when I click to disconnect itself from the GPS it also BOSDs and reboots.

I have reported this to Tyler as a bug on his forum.


Now before when I had Windows XP, it worked perfectly every time!

David
if you shut the gps off in the application first (i.e streets and trips or whatever application) then you can avoid the BSOD.
 
ok, so I hate to bump an old thread, but I'm wondering has anyone gotten this to work with Windows 7?

I've got the GPS puck working, it's locked on green, and in the SerialEmulator it's giving me coordinates, the icon in the taskbar is green, but I can't get the proper port to recognize in GRLEVEL3. in GRLEVEL3 it only gives me Com3, Com5, and Com6.

when I go to the SerialEmulator (which miraculously works in WinXP compatibility mode) it only gives me Com2, Com8, Com9, Com10 and all the Com Ports up to 99.

any ideas?


Dell Latitude E6510
4GB Ram
1 TB HD
3.6 GHZ Processor
Win 7 Ultimate
 
I'm not familiar with the SerialEmulator software as I use GPSGate. But if they are similar there should be an option to 'Add Output' in the splitter. If there isn't then I'm unsure...try GPS gate?
 
I'm on my work computer, so let me see if I can remember.

Plug in the GPS puck, launch GPS Gate, or at least open the menu in the task bar.

Next it should be settings I believe, and on the first tab there's a "Run Setup Wizard".

Try running that and see if it is able to detect the device. Otherwise, that stinks :(
 
GPSGate and DeLorme have never played nice together. From what I understand, DeLorme's serial emulator won't work at all in Windows 7 64 bit. I had an Earthmate years ago and that stupid emulator never worked right for what I needed it for either (at the beginning of WiFi and Wardriving - maybe 2000-2001? ). Sell it/return it and get yourself a Pharos.
 
Matt, I've got the SerialEmulator working, but I think im on 32bit w/ Windows 7 Ultimate.
 
I'm on my work computer, so let me see if I can remember.

Plug in the GPS puck, launch GPS Gate, or at least open the menu in the task bar.

Next it should be settings I believe, and on the first tab there's a "Run Setup Wizard".

Try running that and see if it is able to detect the device. Otherwise, that stinks :(

yeah the Run Setup Wizard is not recognizing it at all :(
 
Nuts...

Well, then its a matter of continuing to troubleshoot, or get another puck. I just replaced my old Garmin unit a couple weeks ago with a Globalsat BU-353. Works flawlessly, and picked it up brand new and delivered for $24. Just a second option for you.
 
I have the Earthmate LT-40 puck working with Delorme Serial Emulator then GPSGate then GRLevel3/Street Atlas/Spotter Network in Vista - after some research I found that you have to manually start both the serial emulator and GPSGate in that order (i.e. remove from your automatic StartUp sequence) then it works.

Unfortunately from what I understand the Delorme Serial Emulator doesn't work in Windows 7, therefore you won't get GPSGate to work with the Earthmate device since it isn't supported by GPSGate - you'll need another GPS puck - look at the GPSGate site for supported devices.
 
Matt, I've got the SerialEmulator working, but I think im on 32bit w/ Windows 7 Ultimate.

Go to Start > Computer > System Properties and it'll tell you. If you have more than 3GB RAM, it's most likely going to be 64 bit.

The fact that you have to run it in XP compatibility mode also tells me that it's not running properly. If it were just a program that didn't need I/O other than the keyboard/mouse/monitor, it wouldn't matter. However, this program needs to not only talk to the USB driver, it has to use a driver to create a virtual COM port, which it can't do in XP mode. Sorry, but you've hit a brick wall. There is no fix.

Basically DeLorme has made it very clear they only want you using their puck on their software (by not supporting their own emulator, and by not allowing Franson to include the translator in GPSGate the way Garmin did), and there is nothing you can do about it besides change brands.
 
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