• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Nowcasting with the Short Fuse Composite

Do you use the Short Fuse Composite when chasing?


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Anyone still using the short fuse composite graphics for nowcasting initiation when chasing? Here's an example from DDC:

https://www.weather.gov/ddc/shortfuse

I used those graphics a lot in the mid to late 00's but just realized I haven't at all for the past couple of seasons. With all the hi-rez convective model runs available and with some of the short fuse graphics broken/unavailable now I've moved on. Anyone still finding value in them?
 
No doubt and I use SPC mesoanalysis every chase. In fact I've written a custom "chase day" viewer for their graphics that I'd like to open source when I get time. But the graphics & overlays aren't specifically tuned for identifying the short-fuse "threat area" criteria though. Graphics aside the question is more about whether the short-fuse criteria is still valuable in this age of rapid refresh/high resolution CAMs.
 
I knew about them when I was getting into chasing back in the 2007-2008 timeframe, but I never ended up using them for whatever reason. I think it was partially the preference for surface obs and visible satellite over the short fuse products followed by the realization that those products couldn't really be much better than a RUC or SPC mesoanalysis given the data that had to go into them to create them. I don't think there was ever anything special about the short fuse composites - they were just zoomed in versions of RUC analyses, perhaps with an extra sfc ob or two assimilated, and with other fields plotted that you wouldn't normally see. However, I think it's been shown that no single composite index exists that predicts everything chasers need to successfullly see supercells and tornadoes, so none of those added composite fields really added much value, at least, IMO.
 
Over time I've condensed the multi-point short-fuse criteria into biasing toward the nose of a steep low-level lapse rate punching into the moist axis for initiation. But I just use the mesoanalysis graphics for that.
 
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