Cell Phone Net Connection?

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I saw where someone in another post stated that they used voice minutes to connect to the internet to gather data. I was curious if this was possible through T-Mobile? I have 1500 minutes and have plenty to spare and it would be wonderful if I could use them to connect. What equipment would I need to do this also? Thanks!
 
The only two carriers this works with to the best of my knowledge is Verizon and Alltel. They both work off of a loophole in their Downloadable Applications script on the phone, where it thinks it is the phone, not a laptop dialing in and is patching it through to the internet. It is known to both companies however, so there are no legalities or violations on your contract to be worried about.
 
Cingular does have (or at least did up to very recently) an option for Circuit Switch Data (CSD), which allows you to dial into an ISP. I thought it was a $4/mo option or smoething like that. I use GPRS data (through MediaNet), so I just 'dial into' *99# (Cingular's data line).
 
So what would I need to purchase from Verizon in order to get this internet data? Does their program provide a means to surf the web or does one need to get something like AOL also?
 
From what I understand you need to get a Verizon phone and one of their numerous plans, then you must purchase a cell modem (which runs from around 150+ dollars) then a cord runs between the phone and your laptop. When you connect the network recognizes the signal as a cell phone and uses your minuets as if you were making a call.
 
Thanks. While not knowing about the cell modem hardware, I'll look into it. I guess it makes sense that you need a jack to plug into the phone just like you need one for the modem in the laptop. Verizon is 1 mile from my house, so I will pay them a visit tomorrow. Any more input? please feel free to post.
 
They also have wireless PCMCIA cards (looks like a network card, but it's a wireless). T-mobile has an amplifier and external mag-mount antenna you can get and get service just about anywhere (where you normally wouldn't have service)
 
Howie I don't think you need any cell modem with verison to get data. Well I use verizon and don't have a cell modem so I guess I should say I know you don't. I believe the product is called "mobile office" or something like that. All it is is a cd with software and a cable. With it all I do is dial my local ISP number and connect, the phone acts like the modem. It does have to be in a digital area though. But all I have is a cable that runs to a serial or usb spot and to my phone.....no pcmcia modem.

And some digital towers don't seem to support cdma or whatever that is called for digital data, but at least in the plains this hasn't been that common(and seems to be changing in areas for the better).
 
No, god no, don't go there and ask them. They will try to set you up on a dedicated data account. All you need to do is go buy a phone, go to RadioShack, get the FutureDial cable (don't buy the software), get a few settings, and you're off.
 
Please forgive my confusion here, but is the "FutureDial" cable compatible with Verizon Samsung phones? Also, a confusing question that still linger is...whose number do you dial to get the data and is there a separate account needed to surf. IE..AOL has an AOL number to dial and you use their browser. Does VZ Wireless have the same thing? How do I actually dial in and get the data?

Thanks in advance for being tolerant.
 
I purchased the mobile office kit and no ISP was needed.

Pick "Quick 2 Net" when you dial with their software and it will remove minutes from your voice plan. No data plan required.

I've not tried it without the mobile office kit so I can't help there.
 
Please forgive my confusion here, but is the "FutureDial" cable compatible with Verizon Samsung phones? Also, a confusing question that still linger is...whose number do you dial to get the data and is there a separate account needed to surf. IE..AOL has an AOL number to dial and you use their browser. Does VZ Wireless have the same thing? How do I actually dial in and get the data?

Thanks in advance for being tolerant.

After you get your cable all you need to do is go to FutureDials website and download the driver for your phone. Verizon works the same as Sprint and Globalstar, what you need to do is go into Windows network connections and setup and new connection for your cell phone. It is no different than setting up for cable or DSL or even dial up service, one thing you are going to need is a user name and password form Verizon, now if you already use Verzons website for billing and to check you plan and stuff that user name and password might work if it doesn't call them and ask for one. Once you set up the connection (this is only used for 3G phones or the newer ones) the number is #777 it really does not dial the number but ths will let you access the interent with you phone. Then you just bring up explorer and go to what website you want, it won't be DSL speeds but it should be somewhere around 70K. Now I never could get a new Sprint ot Verzoin 3G phone to dial out the old way by just dialing up my own ISP, before the 3g phone when the digital phones came out that is how I used to do it.
 
Yeah, thanks. I'm trying out now. I'm done research and it appears the faster, Express Network is being locked down. QNC will remain free however. I never knew Verizon had free data packages so this is nice to hear about. A nice backup even if you have another internet package. I ordered a data cable for $0.79 on eBay and am waiting for it to get here. I'll report back if anyone wants.
 
cell data connection

Yup, I've used Verizon for web access for years. Two things I have found that have been mentioned in different postings previously: 1) you DON'T need a separate data plan, just the normal calling plan, and a data kit for your phone (available at most any Verizon store), which includes a CD and USB cable. This provides access whenever you have a digital signal. 2) If you want reliable access in analog areas, a separate PC modem card (I use an Ositech King of Clubs) will get you connected. This still uses the normal voice minutes....I have found that forcing your phone in analog mode (check you phone's directions) can give access, albeit slow, just about anywhere. -Dave
 
I was looking at verizon plans the other week and noticed now they have something saying you "must" have a data plan to get internet. It seemed like they too now don't want people using their own isp and normal voice minutes. I will go to altell if they want to do this. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
 
verizon data plans

Hey Mike....thanks for the heads-up...my plan is an old one, and when the "contract" expired my service continued "as-is"....maybe I don't want to change it or make anyone aware of the data use! -Dave
 
Still getting online with verizon here. I have read somewhere that the newer phones have disabled the ability to achieve this however....not sure how true that is though. Anyone else hear that?


Anyhow, with my old LG4400, I'm still logging on with mobile office to verizons digital network (express network), and can many times get a connection outside of digital areas using the "quick 2 net" feature albeit at 14.4 connection speed. Can also dial up a temporary ISP using the phone if the need arises. No digital charges, just regular minutes, and of course nation wide calling plan to avoid extra roaming charges.

I would seriously like to have threat net though. I do wish they would lower their fees a bit more :(
 
Verizon Data

As far as I know, nothing of Verizon has been locked down. A few of their newer phones are not set up for DUN (Dial Up Networking), but those who are even slightly computer savvy could complete editing needed on the phone to enable the DUN profile. I currently connect with my VX8100 using bluetooth for chasing. I am in a non EVDO (Verizon Broadband) area so I am still accesing the Express Network, but the EVDO network can be accessed by DUN as well. Basically gives you a high speed moble connection to the internet when you need one.

Verizon is very lienient about data usage when dialing up using your computer. From what I have heard, which is a lot, they won't waste their time unless you are basically connected 24/7 via your cell phone. Which would be more expensive for you anyway then getting a cable modem.

Also, Verizon does not charge data fees, only airtime minutes used for DUN access. The cable needed for your phone varies from phone to phone (obviously), but can be bought almost anywhere. There are basically 2 types of cables. The box cable and the straight cable. A box cable requires a special driver which can be found (free) at futuredial.com. The Stright cable also requires a driver, which can also be found for free by simply googling it. You do not need to buy Verizon's phone tools, or the futuredial suite to use just DUN. If you want all the other stuff that goes with it: Address book, ringer uploads and so on, you can get a program called Bitpim that will allow you to transfer all those for nothing, zip zero nadda. Verizon just doesnt want you to know that it can be done since they offer their "Get It Now" pay service to transfer stuff.

One more thing, to dial up to an external ISP using your phone, is as simple as putting in the ISP phone number, username and pass...and whala, instant dial up. No king of hearts modem needed.
 
Verizon connections

I have used Verizon for years for cell phone connectivity. I have a Motorola cell phone and bought a connectivity kit for it for about $35 with an upgrad last year. Once you load the software, you plug your cell phone into a USB port via a cable and off you go! You CAN use your cell phone voice minutes for data, but only at the analog rate of about 14.4 kbps. During chase season I add the Mobile Broadband plan to my phone for $79 per month and get up to 300 kbps UP AND DOWN just about anywhere there is a digital connection. It works VERY well. Then after chase season you can cancel the broadband service and continue with your voice only plan till the next chase season :D
 
Re: Verizon connections

I have used Verizon for years for cell phone connectivity. I have a Motorola cell phone and bought a connectivity kit for it for about $35 with an upgrad last year. Once you load the software, you plug your cell phone into a USB port via a cable and off you go! You CAN use your cell phone voice minutes for data, but only at the analog rate of about 14.4 kbps. During chase season I add the Mobile Broadband plan to my phone for $79 per month and get up to 300 kbps UP AND DOWN just about anywhere there is a digital connection. It works VERY well. Then after chase season you can cancel the broadband service and continue with your voice only plan till the next chase season :D

Verizon and Alltel both operate on CDMA networks. I have an Alltel data plan only with a new Kyocera air-card and the setup works wonderfully all across Kansas' ~90 to 95% CDMA coverage. Most of Kansas is Alltel except for the larger metro areas of Wichita, Lawrence, Kansas City which are Verizon. I can roam on Verizon's CDMA if I have the unlimited with roaming plan, their "Coast to Coast" ($69.99). Otherwise, the basic 7.99 plan is only for 2MB up/down per month with no roaming... which is great for the off season. I'm pretty sure Verizon has the same data service as Alltel with unlimited roaming on Alltel's network in rural Kansas... Either Alltel or Verizon is the way to go in my opinion

Mike U
 
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