• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Bark worse than Bite (tonight's sand wall)

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With a sand wall of this size, I was expecting a little more action behind it. A thunderstorm was there, 50dbz or so, but only so briefly. What do I expect with a 35 degree dewpoint. :) Monsoon in the Arizona Desert isn't for another 2 months yet. What does that 1930s song say? "I can dream can't I..."

The dust storm occurred about 1 hr 20 min ago. This is northeast of Scottsdale. I got a big facefull of hot sand when it passed over me.
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By the way, normally, a prominent red mesa is in this view. It's hiding in the rolling cloud of sand.
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How often does that happen where you live?

When you see those photos of the leading edge of a sand storm they always look like the end of the world is coming.
 
How fast did the storm move? Just my speculation, but I think the storm's outlfow was dry and warmed by compression, which accounts for the hot sand. If the stormwasmoving fast enough, it would re-ingest some of that dry air and reduce the potential for rain.
 
How often does that happen where you live?

A haboob occurs several times per year routinely during summer monsoon. Tonight's was way early, April. Monsoon comes around in early July, with all kinds of severe weather, the main features being dust storms, severe thunderstorms with blowing sand, intense lightning, high winds even to 100mph gusts, torrents of rain, and flash flooding.

Whenever there are severe thunderstorms out & about in the Arizona Desert, a haboob is sure to form as the thunderstorm core fans out the sand wall in all directions. Therefore, I can generally trust the sand storm, that it will precede a good chase. The 50dbz thunderstorm behind it did indeed happen, but it was rapid fire event then it was out of here. Very early in the year for storms with sticking power anyway.
 
How fast did the storm move? Just my speculation, but I think the storm's outlfow was dry and warmed by compression, which accounts for the hot sand. If the stormwasmoving fast enough, it would re-ingest some of that dry air and reduce the potential for rain.

Looked to me that this one was coming in about 15-20 mph, just a guess. It was about 95 degrees today, but you are right, the sand wall is always hotter when it comes over you.
 
btw I hope I didn't offend by posting my sand wall in W & C because it happened tonight. I just didn't think that a sand wall warranted making a full thunderstorm chase report about it (thunderstorm was not severe and not chaseable). 'Tis ok?
 
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