Lanny Dean
EF5
Flame anyone? lol It's all good Jason....I might just do that.
An Appeal for Civility
- Thread starter Bob Hartig
- Start date
Flame anyone? lol It's all good Jason....I might just do that.
Dan Robinson
Forgive me for saying - but is this crisis really a huge problem? Maybe I'm missing something, but if my memory is correct, a thread like the one in question breaks out once, maybe twice, a year on average.
Lanny Dean
EF5
Justin, please re-read my post invovling that thread. At no time did I "call for banning" anyone. What I did said was that IMO newbies should not be allowed to post in the advanced area....and this inlcuded you
Clarence Bennett
EF3
What is your definition of a "newbie"? Anyone with a very low post count that may be new to the forum? Just because someone is a "newbie" to the forum doesn't mean they are a "newbie" to meteorology. Perhaps a "noob" could be a meteorologist, but because he has 8 or 9 posts, he doesn't know jack? Since we are all on a rant, I'd like to know what makes a few members on here feel they are better/wiser/more respected, because they have a high post count. Some of these folks with these high post counts never contribute ANYTHING to this forum. Just garbage posts.
Joey Ketcham
I'm pretty sure I posted the definition of a newbie when you asked this before, but I'll post it again.
Newbie is a slang term for a newcomer to an Internet activity, for example online gaming. It can also be used to indicate an individual inexperienced in any other activity. It can have derogatory connotations, but is also often used for descriptive purposes only, without a value judgment.
The definition seems to be pretty straight forward to me.
Justin Wiley
EF1
Maybe I'm such a big "newb" to not understand.. but doesn't "not being able to post" equate to "banning"?
Thankfully, you don't run this site.
Clarence Bennett
EF3
You are a real wise guy aren't you? You obviously knew that I was talking to you about garbage posts. I've read your blog...I have seen you complain about the most ascenine things. I didn't ask for the definition of "newbie" einstein. I asked what Lanny's definition of a newbie was. You know, I wish I could just learn to keep my mouth shut when I see ignorant posts, but it sickens me when I come here to read about weather and have to read through some of the garbage that gets posted. Joey, based on your posts and the things you write on your blog, you seem like a real miserable person. I bet you aren't as brave face to face.
Justin Wiley
EF1
Thanks Clarence. I am not a meteorologist and I don't have a weather-related degree but I've been following it since I was about 8 years old (nearly 20 years ago) and feel I have a decent grasp on some of the basic concepts.
Apparently according to Lanny, "newbies" aren't allowed to learn and follow weather. Just people who have more opportunities to post at a computer all day that contribute to higher post counts are allowed to.
I bet Lanny forgot at one day he was just a mindless little "newbie" too.
Justin Wiley
EF1
Joey did the EXACT same thing to me in another thread a couple of weeks ago. He failed to comprehend the phrase "Lanny, what's YOUR definition of newbie"..
Sorry to get off-topic..
Rob Wadsworth
EF5
To start off with, I like what Bob Hartig said in his original post on this thread.
BTW:
Would this thread have been started if severe weather was happening?
Are we seeing a kind of 'cabin fever' due to the lack of subject matter?
Have all of the possible threads been written and all have been duely appointed with enough proper responses?
My responses to these questions would be: no, yes, and no - respectively
I think ST is the B E S T!!!!!
BTW:
Would this thread have been started if severe weather was happening?
Are we seeing a kind of 'cabin fever' due to the lack of subject matter?
Have all of the possible threads been written and all have been duely appointed with enough proper responses?
My responses to these questions would be: no, yes, and no - respectively
I think ST is the B E S T!!!!!
Jeff Snyder
EF5
I'm thinking the same thing, and I was intimately involved with the Stormtrack "nuclear bomb" restart back in 2005 (I think -- maybe it was 2006, though) when we tried to wipe the slate amid an "outbreak" of flames and tempers. Personally, I really haven't noticed the tremendous drop in SNR of which some folks write... We used to have nasty 'fights' in the past, and we've had a myriad of frivolous posts and members since Stormtrack first moved from Yahoo Groups earlier this decade. The off-season is typically a brutal time for these sorts of outbursts (heck, the uber-breakdown back in 2005 took place in August and September, IIRC), so I really don't think this is anything new (other than the inclusion of some "new" folks, and the exclusion of some who used to cause a few problems).
It's very easy to play 20-20 hindsight and point out inconsistencies or to complain about being repressed. The fact of the matter is that you should be respectful and professional... If you aren't, and you get into a name-calling situation, then don't be surprised if the mods have to step in and take action. On many matters, you can certainly express your opinions without any administrative repercussions assuming you do so respectfully. Of course, this is not a "free for all" forum -- you cannot discuss politics, religion, or other matters that tend to be highly controversial. I remember the "old days" when folks would scream and blast others in those infamous religious and political threads, despite the fact that nobody's opinion would ever really change and the fact that they almost always ended the same way.
I know what it's like to deal with administrative matters since I was a mod here for something like 4 years, and there is a lot of behind-the-scenes drama that the moderators must deal with. On the volatile days, when flame wars can spread like, well, fire, there often is not time for all the moderators to get together and discuss everything. As such, at least for the rapid-reaction events, sometimes only a couple of moderators are available to discuss the events and make a quick decision. As other mods are able to chime in and discuss the problematic thread(s) or user(s), secondary actions are taken to better address the problems (such actions can either be the issuance of additional suspensions/infractions, or the removal of suspensions/infractions/locks on threads/etc.). Sure, sometimes the best actions aren't necessarily taken right away, and some human error is to be expected. However, I still have confidence in the ST administrative staff, and I think they're doing the best they can do to help keep this forum running smoothly.
P.S. - Always feel free to contact the mods! I loved getting feedback from members when I was a moderator, and I tried to address every PM and email that I received. If necessary, each and every matter was brought up to the moderators for discussion as well. It does no good to take the notion that the "evil moderators are evil" because they are charged with giving infractions, moderating threads, and so forth. These moderators are your fellow chasers, and if you have problems, you should take the mature route by communicating them to the moderators.
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Randall Cooper
EF2
OK, am i understanding this right? People like Chad Berryhill get suspended or banned for starting a harmless thread last night, and yet this guy comes in here and says something like this to Lanny, and MODS turn the other cheek? Am i the only one scratching my head and asking What the ****?!
Again, it is this kind of favoritism from the MODs that has already driven so many away from this forum, believe me i know because Ive talked to many of them as I know them personally.
But by all means, people in charge, if you wanna keep losing more people and eventually not have a forum at all, keep going the way your going, because i can guarantee, it WILL happen! People get tired of the MODs playing favoritism, and all the banning and kicking for no apparent reason.
For the record, I agree 100% with EVERYTHING that Lanny has said so far, and I will say the same thing he has said, MODS if you dont like what I have said in this post, feel free to do whatever. Just dont expect me to crawl back and beg for another chance when you ban/kick innocent people and than let something like what Jason Boggs said go unnoticed.
Dan Cook
EF5
I would've slapped him for that but I'd probably get screamed at if I did..
mikedeason
EF5
Some of you younger, very thin-skinned folks would have never survived online BBS's and forums 15-20 years ago. It was not uncommon at all to have to build up time and credit before you could access certain areas and it was common knowledge that you never participated in a online forum/discussion/USENET without lurking for a little while. How times have changed. 
MatthewCarman
What I saw yesterday was people flaming and calling eachother names. The rules state that is not allowed. That is why the thread was locked. Calling someone a fag is not cool. If you have nothing good to say don't say anything at all.
Ps. If you PM me with rude abusive language I will not reply and show it the mods so don't waste my time if you have nothing good to say.
Ps. If you PM me with rude abusive language I will not reply and show it the mods so don't waste my time if you have nothing good to say.
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