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4/26/09 NOW: KS/OK/TX/MO

  • Thread starter Thread starter Michael O'Keeffe
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KWTV live streaming has storm producing funnel clouds about to move over carnegie oklahoma

sirens activated in carnegie, wall cloud over south edge of city
 
Carnegie sounded the sirens and there was a terrific RFD cut into a white wall cloud there ... hanging low but could not verify any condensation funnel to the ground. Looked pretty mean at the time, and it wouldn't totally surprise me if there was something that came out of it, but unable to verify. This storm has been a major pain in our posteriors all afternoon. We did get some nice shots when it tightened up into its best wall cloud down in the Wichitas ... would have been really sweet to have a tornado around those mountains, but of course, it refused to cooperate ... because the sky in Oklahoma hates me.
 
I wonder if there are any chasers watching the 'twin' supercells near Sonora, TX this evening. Tornado warnings on both storms with very classic reflectivity in GR3 at this time.
 
I would love to see a report or two from those two cells near Senora, TX. Looks like they could still be producing.
 
Not to be a d-bag here, but why did SPC stick with a HIGH risk for 0100? Can someone explain this to me?

ONGOING SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST
WELL AFTER DARK FROM CENTRAL PART OF TX THROUGH MUCH OF OK TO KS.
THREAT FOR LONG-LIVED TORNADIC SUPERCELLS...VERY LARGE/DESTRUCTIVE
HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS REMAIN POSSIBLE ACROSS THE MODERATE AND HIGH
RISK AREAS INTO THE EARLY MORNING HOURS TONIGHT.
 
I'm sorry, but with clear linear forcing and the absence of any cells even becoming quasi-discrete with significant mesocyclones in the high risk area, i haven't the faintest idea why SPC has maintained a high risk.

Even with the SRH values present, the highest tornado potential i could see would be 10% hatched in the event that embedded mesocyclones do form within any of these squall lines, which doesn't seem to be happening anywhere.

Also, since when was SRH measured in J/Kg?

"OW LEVEL SHEAR IS FCST TO INCREASE ACROSS MOST OF WW AREA DURING
NEXT FEW HOURS...AS STRENGTHENING LLJ BOOSTS HODOGRAPH SIZE...WITH
0-1 KM SRH EXCEEDING 400 J/KG IN MANY LOCALES."

Failure at SPC today IMO to recognize the immense linear forcing and subsequent reduced tornado threat - something that IMO was blatantly apparent this morning.
 
A post in this thread was deleted as it was an ad-hominem snark ("Might want to get yourself some credentials before you start undermining the logic and forecasting ability of the SPC", etc). This should have been handled with a little more grace. Not everyone is savvy on the nuances of PDS watches, and emotions are running a little high, anyway, the way this day has played out. We're foregoing a warning but please be advised this kind of stuff will not be tolerated here even if the intent is in the right place.

Tim
 
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