09L: Hurricane Ike

"Is there a small community along the coast that was swept to the foundations?"

yup...

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these come from KHOU and are from some section of Bolivar Peninsula. We knew this was what was going to be found when the aerial photos came in, but still, when I actually see it for the first time... the epic storm surge that wipes foundations clean... its a little shocking, even though we knew it had happened. Theres nothing left of most of those homes. Not even even debris.

A few more photos can be seen here...

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102847&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=13080

From the same site, later on in the thread -- this is what that area looked like before (and this is just a small slice; there are many more homes if you pan east and west in Google Earth):

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The population of the Bolivar Peninsula is around 3,800. Considering they have no sea-wall whatsoever, I suspect most of them high tailed it before the storm got there -- at least, I hope they did.
 
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I doubt there are many foundations to begin with. I notice the telephone poles are still standing, maybe the stilts where not deep enough on the homes washed away?
 
From the same site, later on in the thread -- this is what that area looked like before (and this is just a small slice; there are many more homes if you pan east and west in Google Earth):

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The population of the Bolivar Peninsula is around 3,800. Considering they have no sea-wall whatsoever, I suspect most of them high tailed it before the storm got there -- at least, I hope they did.

That is Crystal Beach, it WAS a great place to camp...did it a few times and have some great memories. All the homes out on the peninsula were on stilts...and were quite deeply anchored but the surge over this very low area just wiped them off like an eraser.
 
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I moved to Brookshire a month ago and am now pretty glad for it. We are one of the precious few who didn't lose power. Gas jumped from $3.35 to $3.80 during the storm...unbelievable.
Did a tour of west Houston/Katy yesterday and most of the damage was to fences, a few roofs were affected. Most have no power. Still have no idea if I have a building to report to work to in the morning. A tornado hit near it and messed up a Motel 6...our roof was not expected to hold. :(

We are going down to Webster today and assist in evacuating our friends to our house. They have a dying father on oxygen that we have to get comfortable.
As a whimsical side note, my anemometer for my Vantage Pro is up on a PVC pipe about 14' in the air...just secured to a fence post. Our winds came primarily from the West and it was somewhat blocked by the townhomes and the lone grove of trees but it took on the 40+mph wind...and won! It now has an S shape bend in the center, but never quit taking data. :cool:
 
"Is there a small community along the coast that was swept to the foundations?"

yup...

381.jpg


these come from KHOU and are from some section of Bolivar Peninsula. We knew this was what was going to be found when the aerial photos came in, but still, when I actually see it for the first time... the epic storm surge that wipes foundations clean... its a little shocking, even though we knew it had happened. Theres nothing left of most of those homes. Not even even debris.

A few more photos can be seen here...

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102847&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=13080

Doesn't look like the "certain death" warning was over the top for this area. Kudos to the NWS for having the guts to use such strong language. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, it was not only warranted, but probably saved countless lives.

As we all know, I Ike was an odd, odd storm. It could have been much worse. It could have intensified more than it did before landing. It could have not made that final jog to the east that spared Galveston/Houston the worst of the surge. And it's winds could have been as bad at the surface as they were a few stories up.

Some parts of Houston still got a taste of what might have been had Ike gained such an intensity. Because of the storm's odd configuration the winds were significantly higher just a few hundred feet off the ground, reaching Category 4 levels.
This explains why Ike ripped half the roof off the $450 million Reliant Stadium, but not the much more modest homes nearby.
- source
 
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Now the real hardship comes with the 20,000 or so people who stayed in Galveston and did not certainly die but are now trying to figure out a way to survive ... because rescuers have to go in and figure out ways to get their butts to safety, which just keeps everyone at risk. Somehow people need to recognize the risk associated not just with the hurricane, but with the incredible strain it puts on the system afterward.
 
Now the real hardship comes with the 20,000 or so people who stayed in Galveston and did not certainly die but are now trying to figure out a way to survive ... because rescuers have to go in and figure out ways to get their butts to safety, which just keeps everyone at risk. Somehow people need to recognize the risk associated not just with the hurricane, but with the incredible strain it puts on the system afterward.

Indeed, I agree. If one was capable of leaving, then they should have. Them staying only costs all of us! Send them a bill for the rescue! (again, only if they had the ability to get out on their own)
 
Indeed, I agree. If one was capable of leaving, then they should have. Them staying only costs all of us! Send them a bill for the rescue! (again, only if they had the ability to get out on their own)

Maybe its a bit cold but I would have loved to have been a 911 operator taking calls that night. All those hundreds that called in asking to be rescued once they realized they were in trouble after they refused to evacuate. I would have said in not so many ways.."tough *****. you are on your buddy. have a nice swim. If you live then next time you will listen to us..huh?"

I know being a 1st responder my job is to do all I can to preserve life/property but at times I wonder why I should have to do so for people who didnt care to save their own life in the 1st place and now put others at risk because they were too stupid (or drunk as I saw many on tv). Isnt it what some call "cleaning out the gene pool"? :rolleyes:

As for the excuse of "not being able to leave". I can promise if they called and said they were disabled or couldnt afford to leave the government would have slapped them on a bus and taken them to a shelter as they did thousands of others free of charge. Bus after bus headed out of that area to shelters so that is a lame excuse used by lazy people. This isnt New Orleans where there were no buses the 1st time. Even NO had enough buses this time. These folks chose to stay.
 
Now the real hardship comes with the 20,000 or so people who stayed in Galveston and did not certainly die but are now trying to figure out a way to survive ... because rescuers have to go in and figure out ways to get their butts to safety, which just keeps everyone at risk. Somehow people need to recognize the risk associated not just with the hurricane, but with the incredible strain it puts on the system afterward.

I45 northbound was passable by late afternoon yesterday. 3 lanes clear in many places, down to one lane in a few, and a couple you had to navigate debris, but there were plenty of emergency crews going in and those of us with vehicles were allowed to leave freely. Only emergency crews and media were being allowed to come in. We were told ferries would be running by today as well.

I45 southbound is another story and I suspect it will take many days to get that cleared. They were working on the north end of the debris but there were places we saw the generic debris was as high as the concrete barriers across all 3 lanes, and in one place and entire fleet of huge yachts were on the southbound lane.

As for the flooded areas, the water was already receding by late afternoon somewhat. Areas that were flooded to us in the early A.M. were becoming accessible, and that will continue. Even the places we saw them picking folks up in boats, there were still people walking in waist high water.

The far west end of the island is another story, even some of the cops told us they weren't sure what was down there because they couldn't get down there yet.

It appeared to me, the vast majority of the folks who want to get out will be able to right away without much in the way of "rescue" other than maybe a ride off the island. In fact they could walk off the island if they were inclined to.

To be honest, although we were able to get some incredible video and pictures, the worst of the bad stuff you see on tv, at least in the main part of Galveston, was right along the seawall. Buildings outside the seawall were either entirely wiped out or heavily damaged. All of the debris was piled up on the main road along the seawall and made for fantastic imagery.

But when you move away from the seawall, even half a block, damage in many cases was fairly minor, about what you might expect from a good supercell. The northern side of the island is where most of the flooding was. Of course back to the west where you could only get to by helicopter was I am sure you have seen on TV.

The other thing were fires that broke out. One apartment complex was on fire and had burned out several town homes already. Firefighters told me they had little water to fight the fires, and had to pull water in to their trucks from the bay, as the hydrants were on the city system that was shut down. Added to that was still the strong winds that made shooting any sort of stream any distance nearly impossible, flooded streets, and power poles down. In many cases they were basically helpless to do much about the fires.

The looters were up at sunrise. When we got out, winds were still VERY strong and loose debris was still blowing around. Nonetheless, we noted several gangs of hoodlums forming up and roaming around carrying duffle bags and such to carry their prizes in. Shortly after that we began seeing police cars. That was all we saw for 2 or 3 hours until other folks started coming out. At least early on, the police were mostly ignoring them.

Just as a trivial note... The folks at the "Poop Deck" where we did the live shots for FOX from all survived, as did the bar itself pretty much unscathed as it has in all other hurricanes, just as they said it would. Interesting.

Most everyone we encountered (unofficials) were in good spirits and happy to be honest. Even some of the people that had just brought in with the boats, didn't seem in despair, rather seemed more upset they had to be inconvenienced being without power to "watch tv or play games". A few of the homeless folks (those that were homeless before the cane) were asking for money, cigarettes and water, in that order. I asked the guy what he was going to do with money, everything is closed.

Anyway, just some real observations from the ground right after the cane that wasn't filtered through a lot of media hype.
 
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BTW there were buses. We saw entire convoys of buses with EVACUATION in the destination message on them, headed out of the area. ANYONE that wanted to leave, could have. Once we got across the causeway, damage inland along I45 was just not THAT bad as far as hurricanes go. There may have been worse off the freeway area, but along I45 we just didn't observe it.
 
Just to echo what David has said really. We were able to drive off Galveston Island yesterday Afternoon by picking our way through the debris that remained on I45 – The down town areas of Galveston still had flood water but this was mostly running off now – still some areas that remain impassable to vehicles. I also noted the house fires that had broken out – apparently caused by electrical cables sparking on the house – strange as I thought all the power was out over the island?

Many of the building structures away from the shore front remain OK – apart from water ingress – at one part we saw that water tide mark up around 9 feet – but for most is was about knee to waist deep.

The strongest wind gust we recorded was 104 mph (Car roof mounted RM Young) during the south eye wall pass. Recording taken from the seawall road.
 
Indeed, I agree. If one was capable of leaving, then they should have. Them staying only costs all of us! Send them a bill for the rescue! (again, only if they had the ability to get out on their own)


I'm glad someone finally said this. Been biting my tongue trying NOT to say it for the past day.

If they can't make someone leave, send them a "rescue bill" when it's all over.
 
HURRICANE IKE CHASE SUMMARY

Short: A great chase. Rode out the hurricane in my truck in the parking lot of the San Luis Resort on Seawall Blvd in Galveston. Encountered wind gusts estimated to be around 100 MPH in the north eyewall, a calm eye for about 90 minutes, and 100 MPH winds in the south eyewall. Filmed waves crashing up onto the Seawall throughout the night. The highest surge occurred in the north eyewall and maintained itself through the eye before receeding. Glad to arrive home safe and sound.

Long: Shawn McQuinn and I departed Dallas at NOON and drove straight to Galveston on I-45 arriving there about 5:30 PM. Water from Ike's storm surge already covered portions of the I-45 south of Tiki Island but the Interstate was still passable otherwise we would have stayed on a bridge in Texas City. We filmed fierce wave action in Galveston Bay before proceeding onto Galveston Island. Much of Seawall Blvd was not driveable due to all the waves topping the wall and depositing debris on the road. Also, water ran up several feet on the road. So, we took back roads occasionally checking out the structures along Seawall Blvd and noticed several buildings (restaurant, giftshops, Flagship Hotel. etc) that were built seaward from the seawall. These buildings had been constructed on pilings and we figured they wouldn't survive the storm.

I decided to ride the storm out at the San Luis Resort on Seawall Blvd, where some of the TV media were staying. I parked the truck in a small parking lot front of the hotel that was 17-20 feet above normal water level. I figured this was a relatively safe location for a CAT 2 storm and could move up the ramp in front of the hotel if the surge got any higher. Between 6 and 8 PM, I wandered the hotel chatting with Geraldo Rivera, Jim Cantore, Jay Gray, and others and helped myself to an all-you-can eat hot shrimp dinner buffet with rice pilaf, salad, and dinner rolls. That beat a cold turkey sandwich I had.

Then I retreated to the car and watched the approach of Ike on the WxWorx radar. The eye appeared to become better defined as it approached the coast indicating the hurricane was strengthening. The media had set up bright lights they ran from generators which lit up the ocean front in from of the hotel. This allowed me to film the violent surf on the Seawall throughout the night. Winds steadily rose and peaked in the north eye wall around midnight. A portion of a brick wall on the adjacent Holiday Inn toppled and periodically flying debris came over my trick and headed west. A few pieces of light debris hit my truck but caused no damage. Shawn abandoned the vehicle and sat on the leeside of the truck as he wanted to experience the full force of the storm. I estimated the winds gusted around 100 MPH from the east in the north eye wall.

Winds wend dead calm relatively quickly and the eye lasted about 90 minuted between 1 and 2:30 AM. I walked for awhile filming the wave action. The water level ranged from one to two feet on Seawall Blvd. It was eerie to see large breaking waves occurring through the calm eye. The mosquitos were terrible and I had to eventually retreat to my vehicle.

Winds rapidly increased after 2:30 AM and I estimated winds gusted around 100 MPH from the west in the south eyewall. Some of the same debris came back at us. Shawn decided to sit outside in the leeside of the truck, however, when he stood up, a piece of palm tree debris smacked him in the head and he quickly retreated back to the vehicle. A lump the size of a golfball soon formed on his head and that ended his outside excursions. But, he has a souvenier now.

When morning arrived, we drove around and checked out the damage. All the seaward buildings on pilings were gone or heavily damaged except for the Flagship Hotel which remained and had only a few wall sections missing on the top floor. We tried to leave the island around 10 AM but the floodwaters behind the seawall were too deep. Also, debris had blocked I-45 and street crews had to wait for the water to receed before clearing a path. We finally were able to leave the island at 1:30 PM and headed through a canyon of flotsom that had piled up 3 feet deep along portions of I-45 north. There was a lot more debris, including several large yachts piled up on I-45 southbound. It will take several days to clear that debris. We arrived back in Dallas safe and sound around 7 PM. Ah, electricity, hot food, and a hot shower along with much needed sleep. Total Time: 31 hours. Total mileage: 650 Total fuel: 30 gallons.
TM
 
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Now the real hardship comes with the 20,000 or so people who stayed in Galveston and did not certainly die but are now trying to figure out a way to survive ... because rescuers have to go in and figure out ways to get their butts to safety, which just keeps everyone at risk. Somehow people need to recognize the risk associated not just with the hurricane, but with the incredible strain it puts on the system afterward.

I agree. But look out - here come those who would legislate for you and me. I do not know which is worse sometimes; the terrible storm and following devastation - OR those who would legislate measured devastation to our freedoms. People have the right to stay with their homes in the same way storm chasers have the right to risk their own lives by getting within dangers grasp. Drawing the lines inside freedom's no man's land is sure to be accepted by some, but draw criticism from others.

Personally, I don't like the idea of the Federal Gov't bailing people out of their troubles, because they choose to live in potential hurricane devastation zones. Shouldn't there be federally-mandated restrictions on real estate development - so the feds won't have to pay/loan out HUGE sums of money - because men cannot figure out what nature has been desperately trying to pound into their heads time after time? That doesn't mean I wouldn't help them; I just think that we are putting an unnecessay strain on the Federal budget in perpetual building projects that occur EVERY year - somewhere - because we refuse to stop and think about what is really happening. Have we learned anything from Katrina that still needs to be learned again?

My heart goes out to the victims & families of Ike. And my heart also goes out to the American people who continue to support hurricane property destruction and following subsidies. Congratulations for all of those who bagged data, photos, and films of Ike. And I wish to thank those members of STORMTRACK that enlightened those of us who haven't yet attained this knowledge. Now we continue to watch Ike as it moves twards the New England via the Ohio River Valley.
Tornadoes to follow?!?
;)
 
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