• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Slippery Kansas mud roads..like ice

I had trouble once in between Ark City and Newkirk back in 2002 when trying to turn around after seeing the muddy road wasn't such a good idea. It reminded me to quit driving dirt road.

The other time I tried a gravel road was east of Mulvane leaving my aunt and uncle's place (5 miles E of Mulvane). They weren't home, but saw the first tornado as I got back to the car. Could not go north (I wanted to get back home to see a radar) because I would have been close to getting cored. I decided to go east on a gravel road about a mile until the previous storms moisture made the road uncomfortable, more in the rut sense than the slippery sense. If I hadn't turned back, I would have missed some of the most destructive tornado's duration (the tornado known as the Mulvane tornado). I ended up going south on an asphalt road out of the storm's path and watched the whole duration of that tornado.

Sometimes it works out.
 
going pr coming from Lawrence. KS

Once I was either going or coming from Lawrence and going up the hill up East towards Olathe ( k-10 or is it 7) when I hit "black ice." I was heading towards the south ditch when I righted myself and cruised on.
I remember that vividly.

Watch for that black ice whereever you are during the winter especially late at night on dark icy roads
 
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