• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Gravity Waves

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In Shane's thread about strong violent tornadoes with low prob fcst, Dean mentioned gravity waves effecting the strength of the Parkersbug EF5.

Could some of you fine folks expand on that? How do gravity waves go about enhancing (or inhibiting) the strength of a tornado? Maybe explain exactly what they are, and what their general effect is atmospherically as well?

Are these waves forecastable events? Can we look at something like a CAPE chart to see probabilities? Or is the effect just something you realize is there during or after the event?

Thanks!
 
Hey Steve.

Here is the PARKERSBURG NWS ASSESSMENT that talks about the storm and how they think the gravity waves played a role in the storm/tornado development and their intensity. Its a long read, about 50 pages, but it is well worth it (not all of the pages talk about gravity waves and their roll with the storm).

HERE is the thread from here at Storm Track with a lot of commentary from members about this topic which has some good info too.

From what I remember gravity waves cant be predicted, but they can be seen on visible satellite or (I think) even some times on radar. But I'll leave it at that, the links I posted should fill you in on what you want to know.
 
Here is a short paper on gravity waves: http://mcwar.org/library.html. I read a paper a while back that went in depth about the Jarrell, TX F-5 and the suspected effect of gravity waves but I can't find it. I bookmarked the one posted earlier by Chris Lott and look forward to reading it.
 
In Shane's thread about strong violent tornadoes with low prob fcst, Dean mentioned gravity waves effecting the strength of the Parkersbug EF5.

Could some of you fine folks expand on that? How do gravity waves go about enhancing (or inhibiting) the strength of a tornado? Maybe explain exactly what they are, and what their general effect is atmospherically as well?

Are these waves forecastable events? Can we look at something like a CAPE chart to see probabilities? Or is the effect just something you realize is there during or after the event?

Thanks!

Gravity waves are relatively common in the wake of thunderstorm complexes (MCSs, MCVs, derechos, etc). The stable cloud bearing layer in these cases is prime for showing the 'ripples' spreading out from the updrafts as they act like a pebble thrown into a pond. Depending on a number of factors, if a supercell moves into a gravity wave and ingests the turbulent air, its vorticity may be enhanced.

Gravity wave on August 23, 2007 in Chicago:
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