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What Do You Look for/Avoid in Chase Partners?

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How do you size up someone you don't know as to compatibility? Reed Timmer's book got me thinking about this. He wrote of a German OU student anxious to make a chasing trip to SD with Reed and a colleague, but when they got close to a tornado, a big tornado (Manchester, I believe), the German guy had a nervous breakdown. Gauging someone's level of risk is difficult to do on a sunny day when danger is merely hypothetical.

Besides risk, what else about a potential chase partner do you evaluate?

Being a writer, I prefer chasing alone. I consider it "work time," away from phones and people, a chance to do quality thinking on the prairie. I used to take my girlfriend. We never spotted anything. But after reading about the German guy, I'm not inclined to take anyone.
 
I'm still relatively new to this, but I am trying my best to immerse my self into chasing. I have no meteorological background, so I have to teach myself and read what the professionals write. I've watched hours of video to get an idea of what it's like on the road, and I think I've managed to educate myself well enough to handle myself in the field. I can Identify structure, plan escape routes, and position myself as safely as I can. I become a different person while chasing, and I'm not particularly fun person to be around, as I am constantly thinking and focusing on my surroundings.

I would prefer to do all of this myself, mostly because I trust my instincts and I dont want to harm anyone else if I make a mistake. That said, if I do have someone with me, I'd like them to have an idea what they are doing as well. I've had several people ask if they could come with me, but they aren't interested in the forecasting/radar watching/analysis part; they just want to see a tornado. Not that I blame them for that, but it doesn't help me if I need a second pair of eyes to read a map or look at radar when I'm driving. So a prerequisite that I have for anyone who wants to come with is to look at the storm spotting videos from the NWS and Skip's Storm Spotting Tips from a couple of years ago.

I'm fine with taking others with me, but if they add to our safety or analysis, then they may make my life more difficult.
 
This is an interesting topic and one that everyone should have a pretty strong opinion about.
My list:
  1. Must contribute something to the cause besides gas money
  2. Great driver and willing to do so to and from a target
  3. Someone with a stable home life and financial situation
  4. Must not be named @Ben Holcomb - he frightens me
 
It's easy for me because I chase with my brothers who are pretty similar to me and we are close. I know they aren't going to drive me nuts. I have a few ideas for what works for me and what doesn't though.

What works for me:
1- Good driver with a valid license and no warrants
2- Sharp forecaster that can make a decision
3- Isn't too fussy over where to eat
4- Doesn't panic and keeps his focus
5- Knows how to fix stuff
6- Doesn't snore like a freight train
7- When I'm driving, lets me know BEFORE I get to my turn
8- Can get off work when he needs to
9- Shares
10- Never gets car sick
11- Polite to waitresses (yes, it's important)
12- Can take pictures
13- Considerate about limiting talking on the phone
14- Cracks the window when he farts
15- Lets it go when you make a bad call

Things that don't work for me:
1- Announces he can no longer go when you are on the way to pick him up.
2- A raging alcoholic
3- Lacks any traces of survival instinct
4- Always insists if you don't go after his target, you are a moron
5- Smoker
6- Tells stories that have a beginning, no point and no end
7- Cheapskate
8- Plays video games instead of keeping track of developing storms
9- Insists on cranking the TV while you are trying to sleep
10- Drives like Dale Ernhardt Jr. on meth
11- Doesn't let you know it's your turn until the road is in your rear view mirror
12- Won't get out of bed when you have a 300 mile move to make
13- Doesn't cover up when he sneezes or coughs
14- Tries to "hook up" with anyone that so much as looks his way
15- Takes all the credit when things go good, gives you all the blame when it doesn't

That's all I had at the top of my head. Shouldn't be too much to ask....
 
My girlfriend and I went on a local chase. We stopped at a convenience store in the warned area. I got what I wanted and got out, like a NASCAR pit stop. She dawdled over the Starbursts, trying to decide between the regular and the Tropical. I shouted, "PICK ONE AND GET OUT HERE -- NOW!"

There was some tension in the car afterward. But soon, I forgave her for delaying us.
 
I don't think I would ever try chasing with someone I wasn't already friends with. And even a good friend might not be a good chase partner for reasons noted above.

I have chased with the same guy since 2000. We first met on storm chasing tours in 1998 and 1999. I feel really fortunate to have him for a chase partner. We live in different regions of the country and between chase vacations we barely communicate beyond a text or email here and there. Yet every year we pick up where we left off, the conversation flows easily, and we somehow have the ability to spend 14 hours a day together. There are few people in this world I can say that about. I mean even after a long day of chasing, and even though I generally like some time to myself, we'll meet in the morning for breakfast or a workout. We're able to talk about deep things or superficial ones, and equally comfortable just sitting in silence for part of a long drive. We have similar risk tolerances and make similar "cost-benefit" decisions about what's worth a long drive and what isn't. I like that he knows enough about forecasting to be a helpful sounding board, but not so much that we end up arguing - basically I am the primary decision-maker as far as targeting. But he is very helpful in the field, navigating, etc.

Not that he's perfect, of course none of us are. He is too particular about how much sleep he gets and unwilling to push it for even one night. He sometimes runs out of driving stamina, I feel like on most trips I end up doing more than half the driving. He tends to get "cranky" sometimes (but don't we all). He occasionally gets distracted if he tries to talk on his cellphone in the car, and he allows himself to get drawn into (loud) cellphone conversations when we are about to finally sit down to eat at 10pm when I am starving and don't feel like waiting for him to finish. And he's never ready with his drink order when the waitress comes to the table. We split all expenses but I sometimes wish he would offer to pay more to make up for the fact that I'm the one agonizing over the forecast analysis for three or more hours every morning.

Well I offer these positives and negatives about him as examples of what I find important in a chase partner. Don't worry, he's not on this forum so won't see this - but it's nothing I haven't said to his face or busted his chops about already anyway [emoji57]


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I'm not that bad Steve!

I've found my best chase partner is my Finland friend Jari.

He shares similar music tastes, although not 100%.

He contributes to the chase financially as well as he's taken up driving when I've needed him to and even intellectually. He's not the best with navigation, but that's OK as I am pretty dead set on doing that all myself anyway.

I find I like having an assortment of people in my car. Different stories, perspectives, etc makes it fun.
 
Thank you guys for offering plenty to think about.

Steve - What should they contribute to the cause besides gas money? Why is a stable home life so important? Is it the six hours of complaining you hear on your way to the target area, or the strong possibility that your partner will have to drop out at the last minute to take his brother to a court hearing?

Todd - I did not think farts would be a problem, but I've seen some of the convenience-store food chasers eat (some of it, ironically named, "Tornadoes"). Being polite to waitresses is always a good idea, but why did you mention it?

James - Sounds like you struck gold, or at least silver, with this guy. What tipped you off that he would make a great chase partner? Something told you, even before you got in the car together, that this guy deserved a shot.

Ben - Musical tastes, huh? That's one of those little things that can get bigger over the course of a 600-mile drive. How about politics, social issues, physical health and stamina, number of stops needed to pee? Other things that might loom large later, but not be thought of at first?

I'm still committed to doing the chases by myself. Heck, I am not sure what my level of risk is. I've photographed one small tornado and been in another, but I can't say for sure how I would react to a Joplin or El Reno on the horizon. Should that happen, I would rather not work with someone who wants a closeup of the barn flying through the sky, or someone who suddenly decides the best place from which to watch is the Weather Channel at home.
 
Hi Steve, the reason I mentioned being polite to waitresses is besides the embarrassment of sitting with someone who is rude to the waitress, I have a philosophy that how someone treats the waitress is how they will eventually treat you. I'd hate to be in the middle of a chase trip and have the real captain jackass come out of hiding.
 
I'm pretty introverted and independent in everyday life, and that carries over into chasing. I won't mince words: I think I'm pretty selfish about chasing, too. I rarely have much interest in accommodating a potential chase partner's scheduling constraints if I don't have any constraints myself, for example.

I think chasing has a social component for just about everyone. For me, it's just a smaller component than for most chasers. I have a short list of "trusted" chase partners, mostly very experienced themselves, whom I chase with at least several times a year. More often than not, I thoroughly enjoy that experience. Busts are a lot easier to take when there's company (unless internal conflict/disagreements precipitated the bust, of course)!

Where I may differ is that I absolutely love chasing solo, too, and tend to go out solo more days than not. The unfettered freedom and autonomy of calling every shot throughout the day -- whether it's forecasting, side trips before initiation, road options, on-storm positioning, tolerance for risk, where/when to bail and find dinner, and whether to shoot lightning after dark -- is hard to give up once you grow used to it. It's funny, because I have friends who are hardcore chasers but literally have never gone out solo, so they don't get it. I've even heard some serious chasers say they would lose interest entirely if they didn't have company; that the social component is large enough to constitute much of why they love chasing. That's definitely not me; the feeling of scoring big on a day where you did *everything* yourself is hard to top.

Ultimately, when I'm not chasing solo, I'm likely looking for partners with lots of experience, no major scheduling or timing constraints that day (or subsequent days if it's a late season setup up north), and ideally someone who also appreciates structure/lightning/mammatus so that we don't have to throw in the towel the second the potential for violent tornadoes ends or doesn't materialize. There are lots of people I can think of whom I'd be totally willing to chase with all the time with if not for that last condition! Really, it's just a difference in priorities; I respect others' preferences, but I'm willing to pony up the gas money to lock down my own priorities most days. I never mean any offense by it, although again, I think that can be lost on people if they're the type who are totally unwilling to go solo themselves ("you're leaving me to sit the day out just cause you don't want to be home by 8?" :D).

I can see myself softening on this a lot over time, which would probably be good. The more good storms you see, the less pressure there is to succeed on every half decent event. I hope I'm reaching that point where, despite the drive and addiction we all know so well, I can relax more and accept the occasional miss that owes to something out of my control.
 
I love your attitude, Brett, and share that. I'm not really an introvert in most cases (anymore), but again, it fits my personality to go by myself. A great time to think creative thoughts (or at least, give it a try).

Two years ago, driving back to Joplin from Bartlesville, OK, I watched a nighttime supercell perform its symphony of light. Twas an awe-inspiring thing, incredibly spiritual, and I can't help but think anyone breaking the silence would have taken away from the experience.
 
I agree totally with @Steve Miller about a partner being able to contribute something besides gas money. I chased for a season with a guy who while I enjoyed his company and we got along great, he lacked in basic skills like radar interpretation. If I am driving I can't do much more than a cursory glace at radar and I need someone who is has solid skills in the basics like radar interpretation (and navigation in cause we need an escape route). One time I chased with 2 other folks and that was great because the driver doesn't have time to take all the data in and strategy is often left to the navigator. With 2 navigators, it was nice to have a second opinion (you are not aggressive enough, you are too aggressive, etc).

My current chase partner is skilled. While he isn't into the forecasting and "science nerd" stuff like I am, he is great at everything else and complements me well. We also have a very similar level of risk. We are considering a multi day trip with another guy this spring. I suspect he may have a lower risk tolerance than my normal partner based on some comments he has made, so I hope it works out. He is a great guy and we get along very well. I'm hopefully that we can all reach a similar level of risk tolerance so everyone fells comfortable. The new partner is an experienced chaser, and he would bring a lot to our team.
 
It's easy for me because I chase with my brothers who are pretty similar to me and we are close. I know they aren't going to drive me nuts. I have a few ideas for what works for me and what doesn't though.

What works for me:
1- Good driver with a valid license and no warrants
2- Sharp forecaster that can make a decision
3- Isn't too fussy over where to eat
4- Doesn't panic and keeps his focus
5- Knows how to fix stuff
6- Doesn't snore like a freight train
7- When I'm driving, lets me know BEFORE I get to my turn
8- Can get off work when he needs to
9- Shares
10- Never gets car sick
11- Polite to waitresses (yes, it's important)
12- Can take pictures
13- Considerate about limiting talking on the phone
14- Cracks the window when he farts
15- Lets it go when you make a bad call

Things that don't work for me:
1- Announces he can no longer go when you are on the way to pick him up.
2- A raging alcoholic
3- Lacks any traces of survival instinct
4- Always insists if you don't go after his target, you are a moron
5- Smoker
6- Tells stories that have a beginning, no point and no end
7- Cheapskate
8- Plays video games instead of keeping track of developing storms
9- Insists on cranking the TV while you are trying to sleep
10- Drives like Dale Ernhardt Jr. on meth
11- Doesn't let you know it's your turn until the road is in your rear view mirror
12- Won't get out of bed when you have a 300 mile move to make
13- Doesn't cover up when he sneezes or coughs
14- Tries to "hook up" with anyone that so much as looks his way
15- Takes all the credit when things go good, gives you all the blame when it doesn't

That's all I had at the top of my head. Shouldn't be too much to ask....

Great list Todd!


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I still haven't truly found my "partner" yet. I have a few buddies, but not someone who is close enough to be a brother whose always looking to go. My list would be pretty simple, and similar to Steve Miller, though I'd love to have a few Ben Holcombs to chase with.


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[QUOTE="Steve Holmes, post: 347444, member: 5419...She dawdled over the Starbursts, trying to decide between the regular and the Tropical. I shouted, "PICK ONE AND GET OUT HERE -- NOW!"
There was some tension in the car afterward. But soon, I forgave her for delaying us.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but the real question is how long before she forgave you for yelling at her! LOL
Being a spotter & staying close to home I go solo. I've had people want to go with me though when I shoot lightning, but after 1 or 2 bolts, they usely bail & sit in the car the rest of the time.
 
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