Tornado Flips Truck and Driver Drives Away

James K said:
I've always seen stuff like that...
But my thoughts have always been different (and maybe this is a thing due to living in CO with the mountains)...to me pretty much the last place you'd want to be in a thunderstorm is a creek/ditch/ravine - because thunderstorms have rain (and often heavy rain at that), which means the creek/ditch/ravine could flood & flash-flood at that.
I don't know? Is that not so much an issue out on the plains?
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Unless a ditch was already flooded I’d take my chances with any flooding that occurred during the brief period while taking cover from a tornado (which very likely wouldn’t approach a mountain ravine-type event or be life threatening).
 
It all depends on the situation. There may be time to pull over to see the proper motion of a storm-harder to do at speed. I seem to remember a recent phys.org article that questioned the wind tunnel effect of overpass. Moore 99' was deadly due to no exposed girders. I remember Tim Marshall on Oprah right after Twister walking up between metal supports such that he was swallowed in shadow...unlike the father and daughters in the infamous underpass video. I wonder if anyone ever used manholes...drainpipes. In 1998, the Oak Grove school hallways were full of blocks-the survivors were in the gym-yet the heavy bleachers blocked falling debris-go figure.
 
Michael Towers said:
Unless a ditch was already flooded I’d take my chances with any flooding that occurred during the brief period while taking cover from a tornado
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Back in 2013 a prominent TV weathercaster in OKC told people to leave their homes and drive south to avoid the tornado. All deaths that occurred in the OKC area were from floods.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pictured: Tragic family of seven swept away to their deaths after leaving their house to hide in a ditch from Oklahoma City tornado... as death toll rises to 16

Family members say Samuel Cifuentes led his wife and son, as well as his wife's cousin and her three young children into a concrete drainage ditch just feet from his Oklahoma City house.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Yeah, I remember, tragic senseless loss. Unfortunately the victims left the relative safety of their home and took cover in drainage ditch to ride out the storm…not the same thing as a minute or so in a dry roadside ditch to survive a tornado.
 
rdale said:
Back in 2013 a prominent TV weathercaster in OKC told people to leave their homes and drive south to avoid the tornado. All deaths that occurred in the OKC area were from floods.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pictured: Tragic family of seven swept away to their deaths after leaving their house to hide in a ditch from Oklahoma City tornado... as death toll rises to 16

Family members say Samuel Cifuentes led his wife and son, as well as his wife's cousin and her three young children into a concrete drainage ditch just feet from his Oklahoma City house.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Ah yes, the infamous El Reno day. That was pretty much the worst possible setup for him to do that on air; with a supercell that produced a significant tornado, then evolved into a training HP complex with smaller rain-wrapped tornadoes and very heavy rain over the same areas for a long duration.
 
Andy Wehrle said:
Ah yes, the infamous El Reno day. That was pretty much the worst possible setup for him to do that on air; with a supercell that produced a significant tornado, then evolved into a training HP complex with smaller rain-wrapped tornadoes and very heavy rain over the same areas for a long duration.
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He received a award that year. Several say he saved their lives. Sorry mods. I responded before realizing how far off topic I was getting.
 
The problem is that there is no one solution fits all situations, unless you are underground, and there are rare exceptions to sheltering underground. You are either aware of the daily possibilities of violent storms and plan ahead, or not.
 
Unfortunately the pickup driver was one of many oblivious drivers on the road at any given day. By not even realizing he was about to meet a tornado, any other options for safety were eliminated when he didn’t even realize he was in danger in the first place. It’s hard to react to a danger that you have no idea is coming.
 
Warren Faidley said:
Not posting here for an argument, but I'm amazed the NWS and the CDC still says it's OK to abandon the vehicle.

NWS National Homepage: In a vehicle: "Being in a vehicle during a tornado is not safe. The best course of action is to drive to the closest shelter. If you are unable to make it to a safe shelter, either get down in your car and cover your head, or abandon your car and seek shelter in a low lying area such as a ditch or ravine.

CDC National Homepage: "If you’re unable to make it to a safe shelter, either get down in your vehicle and cover your head and neck or leave your vehicle and seek shelter in a low-lying area such as a ditch or ravine."
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Probably the main reason they still say this is because they can't say "Don't be in a car in a tornado...if you have nowhere else to go, you're probably f---ed, but try a ditch anyway. Good luck."

I think Skip Talbot was the one who said this to me, but I rely on a pretty simple rule: "the best way to not get killed by a tornado is to not get hit by a tornado."

Corollary: If you're in a vehicle and a tornado is approaching, you're way better off trying to drive away from it than to abandon it and seek shelter unprotected in the outdoors. A ditch will not offer very good protection unless you can anchor yourself to be flat as a pancake against the ground and have some weeds or grass to deflect small debris near the ground.

Now, if you can get into a sewer pipe or a deep enough ravine and you have something to hold onto, then I'd say you might want to consider that if you can't drive away.

I'll add that I disagree with Chevy giving the kid a new truck, as I worry that could serve as a reward for some degree of stupidity or ignorance. But Chevrolet is a private company and they can do whatever they want. My opinion is not important to them. And if it gets them credibility and/or extra sales, then smart move on their part!
 
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I agree the guidance is confusing… I am no expert on this subject, but find it impossible to imagine abandoning a car to go lay in a ditch… If you are in a car, either you realize a tornado is *about* to hit you, and you should be driving away from it, OR you realize too late that you are *already in it*, in which case it would seem to be too late to do anything. If the tornado is already upon you, imagine the presence of mind needed to exit the vehicle and find a “safe” spot… This requires the ability to counter the human instinct of self-preservation and actually leave the shelter of the vehicle to go out into violent wind and blowing debris… Would you even have the physical ability to open the door and move quickly, with tornadic winds and blowing debris against the door of your car??? The only time I could imagine resorting to a ditch is if I were outside of the car already when I realized I was “in” a tornado; in that case it *might* be a better choice to hit the dirt than try to get in the car and drive.
 
When I did research for my storm survival guide, I was amazed at how many people are killed and injured from weather-related transportation accidents. I think the researchers came up with an average of 800 people killed per year. (US average death toll is 46k total). This would include everything from wet roads, fog, dust, ice, flash floods, etc. I think the majority of accidents could be avoided by simply not driving in shi__y conditions.

The point is that no matter how many times you warn people about driving near (or into) storms, they are still going to think they can beat the odds, often with total disregard of the hazards, driven by the inertia of zero patience. Some believe their cars are a safe fortress, along with the mentality of "it won't happen to me."
 
Your last point is spot on... 99.99999999% of drivers will never be involved in a fatal car crash or car vs tornado incident. So if they think "it won't happen to me" it's because the odds are in their favor.
 
Warren Faidley said:
I was thinking that maybe the truck was cushioned by a layers of air flow.... fit for wind modeling
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Speaking of that, phys.org had a paper yesterday called "Sophisticated fluid mechanics model: space-time isogeometric analysis of car and tire aerodynamics." I would like someone at OU get with them on this!
 
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