How I almost went to Oz, or how NOT to intercept a tornado...

WOW that is one hell of a story, it was scary feeling just reading it! Glad you made it through, Mark! Surely a good lesson for all! Also thanks for sharing it.

I had a core punch last year too, was chasing a massive HP supercell around here on August 14th which caught me before I ran out of it. Couldn't do nothing since highway was blocked by cars looking for shelter under an overpass. Thankfully hailstones were just 2" big along with 70-80mph outflow winds, so no big damage made to my car. And I didn't have a realtime radar access, just occasionally some scans. For those interested, check for pics of that amazing supercell on my website.

Be safe and do not risk chasing at night if you're not fully equipped to stay out there!
 
That was very scary just to even read....its probably good to know how your mind and body coped with that extremely stressful situation and that you seemed to be able to clearly think of what to do instead of freezing up and just going...£*%"!
 
Very well written story! I watched that storm on SL 4 and WOW it was impressive! It is good to hear a story about that very tornado, but most importantly it is good to hear that you made it out of that NASTY situation.
 
Nice.....as a couple others have noted, it would be cool to see some pics/video and maybe even the damage to your car. I guess you are lucky that the house was unlocked and that no one else was there, or even the tornado that hit before that along a similiar path didn't damage or destroy that house.
 
I feel like a total idiot because when I was doing my damage survey of the EF2 that hit those three farmsteads north/northeast of Bird City, I drove by the farmhouse I took shelter in not once, but twice WITHOUT TAKING PICTURES!!! I downloaded my pics the minute I got home and was going through them wondering where the picture of that farmhouse was when the realization dawned on me... f***ing A! I'm really kicking myself on that one. :mad:
Well, it probably didn't help that I had one of the local gals and her mother riding along with me (they had a late model FWD Buick LeSabre and didn't want to get it stuck on the extremely muddy, partially washed out county roads) and they were giving me directions and chatting about the different places that got hit, who lived there etc. so I was distracted and forgot all about taking shots of the farmhouse I sought shelter in.
I did find out more about the house I sought shelter in, though. I was telling a local man who was helping clean up at one of the damaged farmstead's about my harrowing adventure. He asked me to describe the house. I did, and he told me that it was his brother's house, and his brother had not been living there for several years. It also happens that his place was about a half mile back to the northwest of the house I took shelter in on the west side of the highway (which I somehow missed) and he saw me scream by out his living room window while he was talking on the phone, and then about thirty seconds later he saw tree branches/debris start flying past the window and he ran to the basement! Apparently he had no idea it was coming, which is a scary thought. Luckily he only had minor tree/roof damage, likely resulting from the inflow into the tornado.
I will now answer a few questions some of you have asked:
- I was alone in the house, since no one was living there and everyone else had the common sense to stay home and seek shelter while one certain fool was gallavanting about just ASKING for trouble...:rolleyes:
- the damage to the truck was limited to mostly hail/flying debris dents and a few minor scratches from where the tin scraped the paint, thank god for small favors. It had hail dents before(that's the primary reason he let me use it to chase) and even though they're a lot more numerous and visble than they were before, he wasn't too upset about that. He would have murdered me if anything really major had happened to it, though, since we've been trying to sell it for over a year and all we have on it is liability coverage...
- the damage track of the first tornado (the 1/2 mile wide wedge which flattened the farmsteads northeast of Bird City) passed about just over a mile to the east of the farmhouse I sought shelter in. If it had nailed that house prior my arrival, I would have been TOTALLY screwed, as the ditches were full of water so I would have had nowhere to seek shelter from the tornado I drove into...
-Yes, Dustin, we did indeed run across the exact same hay bales. They were the last thing hit by the 26 mile path of the Bird City EF2(underrated in my opinion) wedge, which, like many other tornadoes in this outbreak, actually turned left, or northwest, toward the end of it's path and crossed back over Highway 161, destroying that barn like structure and scattering those hay bales from hell to breakfast.
 
Mark:

Grateful to God with praise that you made it through that event successfully. What an incredible experience and great description by you also! I sense an opportunity for a presentation at chaser/weather conferences in the future.

This is definitely NOT the first time that such a thing has happened. There have been some real scary close calls from others in this group just in the last five years.

That said, I am somewhat surprised that so far, no one has mentioned the role or opportunity that a nowcaster can play in assisting chasers with getting back home or to an overnight destination SAFELY. I am in no way saying that one needs a nowcaster to get back home or to a hotel, but it would be good for us all to have some way of obtaining data and information about what is going on around us---especially if we are going to be driving through a severe thunderstorm environment, or an area that experienced damaging weather after the chase.

I used to nowcast for several folk who are regulars on this forum. But I am now out of business---I have been "put out to pasture," thanks to WX-Works, Threat-Net, ect. lol. You hear that David, Dave, Bob, Phillip, Shane??? [I even updated my computer recently for you guys :) ] Ha, ha, ha.

Anyway, once the chase is over for the chaser, the night is NOT over for nowcasters or others who could be a source of beneficial information for chasers. Some suggestions / observations / recommendations:...

1. For chasers, try to have continued access to data (more than one source in case your favorite source fails) for your trip home or evening destination.
2. For nowcasters or others watching out for chaser friends---like I said earlier---the night IS NOT OVER........stay on top of things and stay in touch with your chasers.
3. It would be wise to have a decent prescribed plan of how you are going to travel to wherever you are going and to let others know about your plans and proposed route of travel. We all know that none of us hardly ever know where we will end up at the end of the chase day, but we should have some kinda game plan in the back of our minds and at the end of the day, we can let others know where we are and where we are going, with the stipulation that plans are always subject to change.
4. Now (casting) for the rest of the story.....this is where folks watching the weather for chasers need to stay in gear and begin to assess the situation. I would evaluate what is going between point of chase ending and heading home. Ongoing convection and its severeity with associated hazards? Are there any damage paths to be encountered, counties under flash flood warmings, or situations with the potential for new storms to fire? Anything that could affect a chaser's ability to get somewhere safely and in a decent amount of time. Keep up with watches, warnings, statements from local NWS offices, media reports, current radar, reports from other chasers. Flash flood and river flood warnings are of particular importance. And chasers / spotters should be inquiring about the same data from wherever and whoever they can obtain such vital information.

Quick case study---May 7th-8th, 2003.

David Drummond ( who only calls me now if he bags multiple tornadoes in a single hour :)) ) was chasing the Big Country of West Texas that Wednesday afternoon. He comes through Fort Worth and chats over dinner on his way to Oklahoma for the evening to chase a potential High Risk the next day (which did materialize). D-Day leaves Ft. Worth at about 11:30 PM (late dinner) heading up I-35 towards Norman. I go back to my usual routines but notice at about 12:15 AM, an incredible supercell storm that has increased in intensity east northeast of Wichita Falls, Texas that is moving east towards the Ardmore, OK area. Well, the hail core was just incredible, especially for such a late night storm. Dbz's were approaching 70 and VIL's were between 70 and 80. The storm is both severe and tornado warned with confirmed giant hail and spotter reports of tornado touchdowns west of Ardmore near Wilson. I thought I better call David to let him know that if he is South of the storm, to sit it out and let it pass by to his north. Or if he is east of the storm, to keep hauling north and get out of its way. Well, what does he do--he goes after it and contemplates a full scale core punch. Dave intercepts the storm on its south flank, experiences a close encounter with a significant night time tornado, gets some hail, goes looking for and finds the damage path, checks on my relatives near Ardmore, and does not get to Norman before 5:00 AM. We all know the rest of the story. Not to brag, I would do this for anyone, but I assessed this as a successful case of nowcaster intervention.

As for my last out of state chase, embarassingly I must admit, 5/29/04 from Fort Worth to Thomas, Oklahoma to Oklahoma City back to Fort Worth. Great chase. Great celebratory dinner in Oklahoma City at Johnny Carinos. But had to check in and out with nowcasters (George Tincher and Danielle Flannery) as to if storms were firing in the I-35 corridor between Norman and Ardmore on my way back to Fort Worth. Some short-lived storms did develop but they never got in the way. I was prepared to take other road options and dodge the developing storms if the need arised. The area was still in a Tor Watch and quite unstable. Got back to Fort Worth late with no problems. Was not sure where the chase would take us that day but once the chase was over, knew the route home and made plans accordingly.

Enough rambliing---most of us know what to do!

Again, very thankful that Mark got through that experience without any physical scars and hope that the rest of us can say the same as we go through this interesting 2007 year. Take care and be safe out there.
Call your nowcasters darnnddned it!!! :))

TomTackett
Ft. Worth, TX....."Where the West Begins."
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Tom has been a tremendous help in years past during and AFTER the chase. I can recall a night in the Panhandle trying to get home and surrounded by supercells and NO DATA (pre-wxworx). Tom found me a safe place to ride it out between two close supercells when I have to admit I had gotten darn scared not knowing what was going on around me and blinding rain. The closest shelter I had anywhere was between two METAL grain silos. NOTHING is worse than being caught at night with NO DATA and NO INFO.
 
We were in the vicinity of those storms. On our way to the Bird City cell when night fell. We looked at our options and although it was clear that we were surrounded by tornadoes. We drove to Goodland, and when it was clear that we were still surrounded by tornadoes.. We headed west to Burlington CO so that we could get some sleep. Of course the all night drive from Ohio meant that we were pretty much fried... Heh heh just driving was probably high risk.

Thanks for sharing your post, stuff happens. I have had to abandon the vehicle once.

Your post actually makes me feel less sad about missing the tornadoes that surrounded us that night. Yes we could have perhaps moved closer, yes we could have waited for some lightning to illuminate the tornadoes but we chose to find the safest path home. I do not chase after dark. Once the sun sets.. I am on my way home.


When I look at all the pics of most who saw tornadoes that day, they are almost all in the dark or at sunset or very close. The window for catching those , at least in kansas/NE was very slim.

That is a crazy feeling when you hear the tornado warning and you do the math in your head.. And then the alarm in your brain goes off. My chase partner misheard the warning on that first Bird City tornado. It said "east of goodland heading North". We were due north of Goodland at the time so any East in the description meant we were safe. She thought they said west of goodland heading north. If that was the case we would have had an experience not unlike yours.

We also drove next to a tornado coming home from a chase in Iowa. We heard the warning, looked left and the best plan of action was to keep moving, the tor tracked to our left for quite a bit. It was a rush when they said, 5 miles north of somewhere and we quickly realize that that is where we are.

If you do get to OZ.. bring some cool stuff back. But stay away from the poppies..


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Tom
 
Wow. I literally got chills reading that. Great post and I'm so glad you're alright. Yup, that was dumb, but we all have the lapse in judgement. I once thought it was a fabulous idea to chase a tornado warned storm right next to a river in a valley where I couldn't see a damn thing. Long story short, I almost lost my life that day. Well, not as close as you, but close nonetheless.

Stay safe out there guys.
 
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