Storm chaser hit by tornado today?

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I read on another forum of 6 storm chasers, 2 whom had mobile mesonets, took from a tornado. From what I read it sounds like the chasers that were hit were possibly well known and respectable chasers.

No names mentioned, if this is so I hope for the best and that they come out ok.
 
Doug Mitchell, Jordan Wrecke and Josh Berg were in one vehicle, with a side window taken out by debris. North of Beloit a group of chasers misjudged an elephant trunk "lifting" and instead drove into the circulation that wasn't quite done. Everyone in all of the vehicles are okay. If all vehicles had thought it had dissipated, I'd assume it must have been rather convincing for everyone to proceed.
 
From what I heard chasers were hit the other day Thu/Fri too. It seems it is now becoming a regular annual recurrent event, possibly even stylish. Some of this is the ever growing contingent trying to get the best, latest, 'in the vortex' shot, for others it is likely lack of experience or awareness of the storm environment, or even lack of respect for the wind and the storm. I once thought I might like to end my days (at old age) by being taken out by a twister, but someone pointed out that I was just more likely to get maimed, paralyzed, or blinded. For those that have death wishes or 'No Fear' I suggest you consider that aspect, as it is not nearly as glamorous as a glorious tornado death.

Also, I am not suggesting that the above reasons were what happened in this case, as I don't know the details, but it just reminded me once again as it likely does the rest of you that we have heard this song before. I will add that the more you chase though the more chances you will have a close encounter or in the vortex encounter with a tornado. I've been very close at times, but have no desire to shoot footage from inside, or be caught against my will. If you chase close, these things can happen. They can also happen at night, and with little equipment, and with fast moving, very dynamic, very tornadic environments / storms with odd motions like the other day from 180. Also, as I have learned from a bad experience, don't be lulled into thinking you are safe because other chasers are about. When you chase (as in flying) you are solely responsible for your welfare and for determining your safety from a tornado. Just because other chasers are around doesn't mean they know what they are doing, or are as aware as you are. Don't get so caught up taking pictures you forget whatever safety rules, methods, procedures you have as otherwise it may get too late to enforce them. Storm chasing really is serious / dangerous. Just ask that couple from Colorado killed in their vehicle by tornado in Kansas the other day. Oh wait, never mind...they are dead.

Oh, PS: I'm glad you are all ok too.
 
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Wow, took only 6 posts before a post like Bill's to surface! I was thinking at least 10, it seems as if chasers are wanting to post stuff like this quicker and quicker each year, to be the first to preach safety. More threads, quicker posts, not how it used to be......
 
What's wrong with safety and instruction particularly for many of the newer chasers on the list from an education standpoint? And I disagree...coming from wx-chase they used to have tons on safety. I am not preaching either, or call it what you will. Don't get me wrong...people can do whatever they want and apparently are, but I can post my opinion and I did, and I think it is qualified and appropriate. I think Dick's reply just reinforces my categorization of 'stylish' if more people are defending such acts.
 
It's just a matter of time..............

True. Eventually some will be maimed or killed, but I guess that is to be expected to some degree. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened quite a bit already. I did hear one of the chasers last Thu or Fri was injured - but this is something I heard second hand, and not sure all the parties want to actually come forward about it. I have also heard chasers have been killed before, but it was quite long ago and once again it was a second hand source.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious and everyone is tired of hearing it. I suppose that is true. I guess my main goal was pointing out that it does seem to be an escalating trend. I'll leave it to the rest of you to decide if it is a good thing or not. I personally don't like the trend of a bunch of chaser convergence either. That's one reason I don't like chasing in urban areas. For those of you that get stuck in traffic or behind a long line of chase vehicles going slow then you know what I mean. That is not necessarily related directly to tornado / chaser incidents but it could be if you get stuck in traffic and a tornado is bearing down on you. I guess I'll get off my soapbox. Probably no one wants to hear this angle. I admit it isn't as cool as driving into a tornado.
 
I am not knockin what you are saying at all Bill..........but, how many times have we heard in the last two seasons alone of RESPECTABLE chasers we all know or at least know of getting caught off guard........it just happens.......Amos can tell you. Dave Drummond can too........and I don't ever get the impression either one of these guys intentionally put themselves in harms way. It just happened. Today was insane......last week was insane. I almost don't look forward to going sometimes just because the hobby is becoming so popular and I don't want to deal with the masses. If I ever quit chasing, it will be because I have had my fill of mass chaser convergences. We all have a right to be on the storm, but some people just don't think inadvertantly........and some people just don't think. We all get tunnel vision once in a while. It is the ones that don't think that scare me! The storm itself is minor in comparison!
 
I agree Eric, that's why I added in my second paragraph the part about if you chase often, and chase close - that's basically what I said. Heck I was very close to driving into a weak tornado a few weeks ago and it was unexpected - so I'm not trying to be close minded here. Like I said, it can happen, and I suppose if you chase enough it WILL happen. I guess my only real point was about the apparent escalation. Maybe it's just because we have more chasers now. I do know from conversations that there are chasers that are doing it to get the 'money' shot. I am not implying these people were. I don't really care I suppose. I will care if somehow it leads to new laws or enforcement, but yeah some of this can't be helped, but if we are all not really trying to drive into tornadoes on purpose then perhaps we need more education / training to slow the trend?
 
I have noticed a trend the last several years...the more that chasers have access to data, the more close calls there have been. It could be that people are feeling like they can get closer because they have better data, or it could even be that people are paying too much attention to what is on the screen and not on what is happening around them. No matter what the reason, I think that people are loosing situational awareness, which is a bad thing to do in a near storm environment.
 
I can't speak for everyone but I can assure that getting "the money shot" was not the motive for several reasons. First off, it was probably around 9:15-9:30 and there was only a little bit of twilight left. Visibility was not great by any means. Secondly, we were trying to get north and east to keep up with the main meso. Only after we approached a dirt road that was extremely narrow and wooded did we turn around. I don't know about everyone else in the group but I did not see the funnel until after we turned around. The funnel was behind us to our SSW by about a mile. According to Jeff Synder's report, the funnel surprised him too and fortunately, he was able to make his way to safety. After I spotted the tornado/funnel, it lifted and gradually disappeared from my view (although I don't have the best nightvision) as we all came to a stop at an intersection. I made the mistake of both assuming that since the funnel was no longer visible that the tornado had lifted and that the since the storm motion was NE that it would pass to our east (we were due north of where I last saw it). Yes, you can criticize me for those mistakes but I was not trying to get close to any tornado at that hour. If the others in the group wish to out themselves and discuss further, I'm sure they can elaborate more.
 
The funnel was behind us to our SSW by about a mile. According to Jeff Snyder's report, the funnel surprised him too and fortunately, he was able to make his way to safety. After I spotted the tornado/funnel, it lifted and gradually disappeared from my view (although I don't have the best nightvision) as we all came to a stop at an intersection. I made the mistake of both assuming that since the funnel was no longer visible that the tornado had lifted and that the since the storm motion was NE that it would pass to our east (we were due north of where I last saw it). Yes, you can criticize me for those mistakes but I was not trying to get close to any tornado at that hour. If the others in the group wish to out themselves and discuss further, I'm sure they can elaborate more.

Doug,

I'm not 100% positive, but I assume I was one of the vehicles in the mini-convoy that tried to you referred to in your REPORTS post. Does the following look right (from my GPS log) --> http://www.tornadocentral.com/now/05292008_tornado.png ?

As with Doug, we were certainly not looking for the "money shot" -- it was dark enough that video would be nearly worthless (though I do have video of the funnel while we were N of it), and we weren't "relying" on data since we had no data coverage in that area! This tornado occurred well back into the occlusion area, and the funnel looked to come back out from the rear side of the updraft; the primary meso appeared to be farther N (at least 5 mi, closer to Jewell), and the RFD gust front was well east of this area. Like Doug, we were looking to stair-step N and E to keep pace with the main meso. The Gazeteer we were using showed that the E option was likely paved, so that's what we tried. Somewhere along the way, we ended up behind several mobile mesonet vehicles (part of the TWISTEX group, I presume). We made it not more than 1/4 mile down the east road before it was evident that the road would be quite muddy and very risky to traverse in my car. So, we turned around to head back W in hopes of heading S back to Hwy 9 / 24. It was at this time that we noticed an elephant trunk-like funnel to our immediate S, with an occassional ground circulation evident. Noting the danger, we turned back to the south, and we appeared to be glanced by the western edge of the circulation (rapid shift from strong easterly winds to southerly winds as it appeared to pass from the S to E to N to NW of us; 40-45 mph winds max for us). In fact, I've seen chasers intentionally get this close, FWIW. The center of rotation appeared to be just E of us in the field, and we quickly bolted back S to Hwy 14 and eventually to Hwy 9 to get east of Beloit. This was certainly unintended, caused not by an over-reliance on data nor by a desire to get a "money shot". In fact, nobody in our vehicle was running their camcorder when we had this close encounter -- instead, we were all worried about getting to safety. This circulation appeared, again, well behind the RFD gust front in an old occlusion. I'm glad to hear Doug and company are largely okay, and we would have stopped to help if we knew there was damage (we were the southern-most vehicle at this time, since we were trying to make a bee-line back to the highway and away from the funnel).

I think the primary meso was up near Jewell and NW of Randall, or 5-6 miles N of us, at the time this occurred, so we weren't exactly trying to get into "the cage". Correspondingly, the primary hook echo precipitation (i.e. "wrap-around" precip) was to our N and NNE, IIRC. All of this is to say that the tornado experienced was NOT in any of the "usual" hot-spots, and I'm still confused as to exactly what circulation this was (main meso 5-6 mi N I think, with possible new meso the E... where did this tornado come from?). I'm interested in seeing what the TWISTEX / mobile mesonet vehicles recorded in terms of peak wind speeds.

A good lesson to always keep eyes open and looking in all directions (including up!) when near a supercell!
 
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