Shane Adams
You might have the coolest name for a storm chaser/spotter/wx-enthusiast ever.
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After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.
I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.
For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.
From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.
Sincerely, Jeff D.
You might have the coolest name for a storm chaser/spotter/wx-enthusiast ever.
Jeremy Den Hartog
Nice guys - funny stuff.
I wish I could go back to my original post in this thread and add to it to clarify a few things. Like I've said before (not in the original post but later on in this thread), I'm not for regulating storm chasing - at least not in the form that many assume I am. Let me try to be clear, I was for regulation in essence to portray to the public, Government, etc that we are trying everything we can to make storm chasing as safe as possible. Again, this is to try to prevent a possible future crackdown by law enforcement on us storm chasers. If you don't think regulations of any kind will ever happen, maybe and probably you are right (at least I hope you are). However, as someone already pointed out in this thread, there have been several technological advances in recent years that would at least make it a possibility for law enforcement to enforce some things on us storm chasers. I agree though, right now they can't and won't regulate things - they don't have a reason or budgets to do such a thing, but with advances in technology and if given reason enough, it could happen sometime in the near future. That being said, my whole point was to find a way to 'self regulate' storm chasers who have put the effort in and at least know what they are doing. By doing some kind of self regulation, does that mean idiots who have no respect for weather or have no idea what they are doing will go away? No, but at least it will be perceived we are at least making an attempt in case the day ever comes where the Government has a good enough reason to crackdown on us (and yes it will happen IF they ever have a good enough reason to do it - for example numerous chasers being killed which isn't a stretch considering chaser convergence now days). Of course I don't agree that the Government should care or step in, but that's just how it is these days (look at smoking bans, seat belt laws, etc). Everything is about being politically correct which means every attempt has to be made to keep every person safe (something I don't agree with but again, that is just how it is). Rip me if you will but this is my opinion and if you disagree that's fine.
Anyhow, back to reading/learning.
I wish I could go back to my original post in this thread and add to it to clarify a few things. Like I've said before (not in the original post but later on in this thread), I'm not for regulating storm chasing - at least not in the form that many assume I am. Let me try to be clear, I was for regulation in essence to portray to the public, Government, etc that we are trying everything we can to make storm chasing as safe as possible. Again, this is to try to prevent a possible future crackdown by law enforcement on us storm chasers. If you don't think regulations of any kind will ever happen, maybe and probably you are right (at least I hope you are). However, as someone already pointed out in this thread, there have been several technological advances in recent years that would at least make it a possibility for law enforcement to enforce some things on us storm chasers. I agree though, right now they can't and won't regulate things - they don't have a reason or budgets to do such a thing, but with advances in technology and if given reason enough, it could happen sometime in the near future. That being said, my whole point was to find a way to 'self regulate' storm chasers who have put the effort in and at least know what they are doing. By doing some kind of self regulation, does that mean idiots who have no respect for weather or have no idea what they are doing will go away? No, but at least it will be perceived we are at least making an attempt in case the day ever comes where the Government has a good enough reason to crackdown on us (and yes it will happen IF they ever have a good enough reason to do it - for example numerous chasers being killed which isn't a stretch considering chaser convergence now days). Of course I don't agree that the Government should care or step in, but that's just how it is these days (look at smoking bans, seat belt laws, etc). Everything is about being politically correct which means every attempt has to be made to keep every person safe (something I don't agree with but again, that is just how it is). Rip me if you will but this is my opinion and if you disagree that's fine.
Anyhow, back to reading/learning.
Jeremy, just to be clear, once a thread like this gets as far as this one has, there is really nothing left to do but have a little fun. My remarks and I'm sure Bob's too are just for giggles and strictly general in nature.
No defense necessary.
No defense necessary.
Jeremy Den Hartog
I hear you Steve and wasn't directing my response at anyone...just wanted to make sure if anyone happens to glance at this thread who hasn't read it doesn't think, 'man, Jeremy Den Hartog is a moron for wanting to regulate storm chasing'...thats why I wish I could just edit my original post but oh well I guess
I understand you guys were just joking around
I understand you guys were just joking around
Bob Hartig
EF5
Hey, I was totally, 100 percent dead-serious!*
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* Just kidding!
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* Just kidding!
Jason Foster
Yeah Bob...we know....you are always 100% bonified dead-serious on every post you make.
Jason Boggs
Not Boone and Crockett...more Like the Doswell and Rasmussen rating system. They would be proud of me. I saw a tornado that was a "12 houser" back in 07. Tulia, TX was the place I saw that beast.
James Weatherman
EF0
Thanks, I had a girlfriend that wanted to be a meteorologist and was very excited about my last name. When we were growing up she wanted to get married for my name lol.
Bob Hartig
EF5
Good luck mounting a trophy like that over your fireplace.
Which brings up the subject of tornado taxidermy. Not many practitioners in the field, or I'm mistaken. Could be a nice niche for some enterprising chaser. Probably cost you a fortune to insure your business, though.
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Paul Knightley
EF5
In response to the initial question, no. Simple.
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