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Pictures on Tornado Attack Website

Success!
On June 12th 2004 we successfully entered a live Tornado in Kansas.
Details to come - click here for photos

http://www.tornadoattack.com/photo.htm

Maybe the "eye" photos are being developed yet?

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I know....the camera it was shot with was sucked out of his hands and he's running to find the camera.

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"Pictures, I was supposed to take pictures from inside?"
 
Oh, yeah. Nice photos. :lol:

My 10 year old son said, after seeing pics of their vehicle, "I hope that guy changes his mind about that.....that's really kind of stupid." :wink:
 
Lots of vehcile pictures and pics of a tornado they DIDN'T get into........pretty much what I figured. The Tornado Attack project was 100% HYPE. Funny how it's been 2 months since Timmer and the gang hopped on board and yet their info still isn't up. Might as wel take the link down now, that TA craze has come and gone.

Now Steve Green can get back to not winning races.
 
That is kinda scary.. It does look like the ultimate chase vehicle though.. just dont know that I would always be punching with it..Hell you dont know youhit the wrong tornado until your there and its too late.. lol

Has anyone showed them pictures of Halem Nebraska?? i f not I have some pics of vehicles when a supposed F3 leveled the square and main street of Stockton missouri on may 4th of 2003..

Whats funny to me though is the Chaser community chastises and castigates the tornado attack project.. Im learning alot and enjoying it.. :)
 
Originally posted by fplowman
Whats funny to me though is the Chaser community chastises and castigates the tornado attack project.. Im learning alot and enjoying it.. :)

You'd expect us to support the idea of driving into a tornado?

And what exactly are you learning from this tool.....how to be an idiot? Why don't you ride along with him and try it yourself. You're gonna LOVE that feeling of total weightlessness just before you lift off the ground....what a rush. Except we came right back down, you guys might end up in Oz.

Not really getting that post,
 
Dude/. i didnt say i wanted to ride with him.. reread my post.. i said Im learning alot. i didnt mean from them I meant from reading here..

Why not a tank though.. I bet you could drive through most any tornado in a tank.. lol.. I can appreciate the idea as a rush.. lol :D
 
Why not a tank though.. I bet you could drive through most any tornado in a tank.. lol.. I can appreciate the idea as a rush.. lol :D

Because it's near-impossible to maneuver quickly and efficiently, two attributes which are a must for any close-in tornado intercept. Also, add to that the fact that you'd most-likely have another Steve Green piloting the damned thing, which means the guy in control of it would have no clue about forecasting or chasing tornadoes.

Oh, and finally - an F4 or greater tornado doesn't care if it's a tank, or a train, or a semi. You really should do some reading.....
 
Better hope for some smooth paved roads with that thing. It's so low-riding, it looks like it would bottom out on a speed bump.

Which raises an interesting question- is this thing even "street legal?" Where is it registered, in what state did it pass inspection?

(Probably New Mexico, they'll register any piece of rust so long as there is a wheel on it somewhere.)
 
Shane,

Why are you trying to argue to argue.??. i have only been here a few days and its the second attack while just trying to be part of the conversation... Hell.. David Drummond drove through a tornado and has the video..How many here core punch?? How often do you see an f4 or f5?? who the hell would drive into that? why would you insinuate im stupid? driving a tank would be the safet vehicle i could think of.. It isnt practical and was just said in jest..

I think Ill just keep my mouth shut from now on as I feel there are people here that know it all and that i cant say shit without a hateful correction... :wink:
 
I think Ill just keep my mouth shut from now on as I feel there are people here that know it all and that i cant say shit without a hateful correction...

Well, there's a lot of people and a lot of personalities here. Sometimes you just gotta let it go. I know that's hard because I had an overreaction the other day about some comments made about one of my posts. Totally my fault because I failed to consider the full context. Life goes on.

Besides, Shane's not a bad guy. Like Animal Mother in "Full Metal Jacket", he's just needs someone to lob hand granades at him the rest of his life. :)

Regards,

Mike
 
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Sorry i got involved.. it wasnt my intent.. Im new here and want no trouble..this website has been a great resource for education. in addition it has allowed me to be succesful in intercepting storms where without this outlet i might still be chasing without success..
 
Whats funny to me though is the Chaser community chastises and castigates the tornado attack project.. Im learning alot and enjoying it.. :)

I can easily see how that comment could be taken "wrongly". I thought pretty much the same thing Shane did when I read it. You yourself said this was funny to you, then add you were learning alot...(with the smile). So us giving the project our honest opinion by "attacking the attack" was funny to you....then you say you are learning a lot with a smile I personally took as a snide smile. There are many attacks on forums, one can expect that with differences in opinions and reading things the wrong way. Certainly you can understand how we could take what you wrote wrongly...try to read it other then how you meant it. I can now read it as you intended it though. It first came across smart assy, but I can read it otherwise now. So I wouldn't get too stirred up over anything Shane said in return. He read it wrong like I did, I think. You just thought it was funny we give him crap as he is sort of one of us. Just like it reads. Even as it stands like that, I would of said something similar to Shane...which really wasn't attacking you back. I read it like this. I thought it was more like, we give him crap even though we are out there doing stuff somewhat similar, putting ourselves in danger. I thought you said it like "where do we get off". Again, I see how it was meant now.

Anyway, a belated welcome Fred. There ARE alot of wise asses that come across the wx groups. I'm one of them from time to time. I just fully understand the angle shane took your post from. I likely would of spouted out something similar in reply taking what you wrote the wrong way. Sometimes there are so many attacks, we read everything a bit too negatively, as if they are possibly stabs at us. And judging by the only portion he quoted from you I think that is what happened. That was the only part that stuck out to me.

Niki writes:

Shane is probably just jealous because he isn't a part of the Tornado Attack project.
Most people here welcome new people to the message board and don't argue about stupid things just to be an ass.

Now THAT is funny and to be laughed at.

Welcome to the party Todd!!!
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From.... http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/viewtopic....der=asc&start=0

Funny I see Shane welcoming someone and no signs of Niki...... :)

Mike....posting to be an ass in this case......
 
Sorry if my post was flamish....I was actually typing it when you posted the warning. I was just trying to keep the flames neutral was all.....

Mike
 
Plowman. Dont post your opinions on this site. I did so in the past as well and you only get chastized and ridiculed because you might think "outiside" th box.
If you thought your opinions would jsut be opinions and nothing would be siad abbout them or they wouldnt be analyzed with a fine toothed comb then you were wrong. How dare you think you can have an opinion that is anything different from the masters that be. :)
Im sure there are alot of people out there who think chasing period is stupid and crazy.
My advice to you is that if you havent chased for more than 20 yrs, havent posted 156,395 times in this forum and dont have the same ideas and opinions as 95% of others then dont bother posting at all....BTW I AM KIDDING.....I always gotta put that at the end for possible legal reasons......YA NEVER KNOW!

Welcome to Stormtrack Plowman! Newbies are welcome and there are a few of us that will take up for ya as long as you promise to keep educating yourself and being resposible and safe. In a way I guess ya just got the ST Newbie initiation.......

Happy Chasing

P.S. I am VERY glad Mr Vasquez posted what he did and when he did. I am very impressed and commend his efforts on making this forum fair and balanced and a place were necomers feel welcome and not shunned. Bravo Mr. Vasquez
 
Hell.. David Drummond drove through a tornado and has the video..
Entirely different situation that I am positive had not crossed either of our minds when we left that morning. Tornado Attack goes out and plans to drive into one as their purpose. I won't dispute the rush but while it was happening neither of us were smiling... The shock afterwards was a rush until the big let down of Hallam that shoved down our throat how lucky we were. Pretty sombering actually.

I'm pretty certain David will agree that anyone who intentionally goes out with the agenda to drive through a tornado is a complete and total idiot.

Also for the record we did not drive through a tornado one basically formed right on top of us. BIG DIFFERENCE
 
I am sure alot of people called Franklin an idiot with his kite experiment as well. Or did they???? Hmmmmmmm :p
 
I am sure alot of people called Franklin an idiot with his kite experiment as well. Or did they???? Hmmmmmmm :p

Ol Ben was an idiot for flying a kite in the lightning. Of course then they didn't know much about it. Thankfully what he learned from being an idiot revolutionized the world.

I hardly think driving into a tornado is going to revolutionize the world.
 
Shane,

Why are you trying to argue i have only been here a few days and its the second attack while just trying to be part of the conversation...

I'm only arguing the idea....I think intentionally driving into a tornado is stupid. In your original post, you made the comment that "it's funny" how the chase community is chastising this guy.....meanwhile, you're learning. You made it sound as if you couldn't understand why we'd not be "for it." If that wasn't your intention, then I apologize.


who the hell would drive into that? why would you insinuate im stupid? driving a tank would be the safet vehicle i could think of.. It isnt practical and was just said in jest..

I assumed you were serious because of the way I interpreted your original post. And all I was really doing was pointing out that a tank is still a bad idea, not pointing at YOU saying "he's an idiot." The only suggestion I made was that you read up on what violent tornadoes can do, thinking you were serious about the tank. Who knows, maybe I was trying to save your life.

I think Ill just keep my mouth shut from now on as I feel there are people here that know it all and that i cant say shit without a hateful correction... :wink:

If I knew you were joking, I never wouldn't even commented. But as I've stated above, you came across pretty serious to me after your initial post. I suck really bad at reading people in general, I guess I'm even worse online. EAnyway, I wouldn;t let one bad experience out of the box ruin the forums for you.
 
As for the whole newbie thing. Please don't think the "elders" owe you the world, becuase they don't. Arguments happen regardless of how long one has been chasing. Jason.....did you have any thoughts on the TIV, or was this just yet another chance to get your stabs in at the more longer termed chasers out there? Good grief.

Plowman. Dont post your opinions on this site. I did so in the past as well and you only get chastized and ridiculed because you might think "outiside" th box.

Yes and worst of all someone might just not agree with them, heaven forbid. Everyone loves to act like they are going to die over colorful dissagreements. If the site is so bad Jason just leave. That or one could get over it? Looking at your posts of late it appears to me you aren't getting too ridiculed. Shocking.....I'll have to get right on that. Shane is coming with me. We will start up a clan of unhappy chasers bent on ridiculing every newbie's idea. Even if we do agree we'll change our view just to be able to state something against what they think, achieving ridicule level.
 
Back to the TIV....where are the pictures?

All I see on the site is some guys in white t-shirts, dark clouds, a pretty sunset, and a few tornado pics.
 
Back to the TIV....where are the pictures?
All I see on the site is some guys in white t-shirts, dark clouds, a pretty sunset, and a few tornado pics.

Confusing ain't it? That is why I poked fun at it. I felt it was more then justified. That'd be kind of like me posting an account saying I saw this amazing supercell. Then post pictures of a rodeo. Anyway, ya got me where the intercept pics are.
 
The longer you post, the more arguments you get into ... just expect it and move on - not everyone will agree with you all the time. This a no-whining zone.

As for discussion on the TIV - my opinions (take em or leave em) -

*The purpose of this project is not for the advancement of the science ... the notion that sending a car containing a human passenger into a tornado to make scientific strides is laughable and makes for a noble cover story.

*The pictures ... so what ... every chaser I know has better, so far that I've seen.

*The risk - this is a stunt - I don't care when other people risk their lives if they want to - what I do care about is when people do it, then claim to represent storm chasers in some way, play to the media and make me look like an idiot because I do this.

*The reality - this is all about media, airtime and sponsorship - anyone who thinks otherwise is mistaken.

This venture can hardly be compared with others, like Tim Samaras' work over the past years. Tim's work involves years of experience, years of effort, a background as a chaser, and honest technical training ... maybe I'm wrong, and they probably know more than I do, but does anyone else think the TIV guys look like little more than:

-a bunch of kids
-chasers who are known to thrive on sensationalism
-a TV 'producer'
-and a racecar driver

Don't look for a call from National Geographic anytime soon -
 
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