Passing of Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young

Absolutely tragic news. Even though it's been a few days since it happened...I can still hardly believe it. It doesn't seem real. Even while watching season five of Stormchasers, I viewed the TWISTEX as too conservative in their approach, so to have it happen to them is all the more shocking. It really highlights how quickly a storm can change and how unpredictable severe weather can be. RIP Tim, Paul & Carl. You will be missed.
 
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but Discovery Channel will be airing some sort of tribute to Tim, Paul and Carl tonight at 10pm EDT.
 
my heart is completely broken at the loss of my heroes. i have no words i can offer to their families and close friends, only prayers... i'm still in shock over this. my brain refuses to believe they are truly gone.
 
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but Discovery Channel will be airing some sort of tribute to Tim, Paul and Carl tonight at 10pm EDT.

Thanks for posting this Shawn. It's on a 10pm pacific time tonight too. I'll be watching.
 
Well this is disappointing so far. They just took their Moore tornado special from the other day and tacked a clip of Tim and Carl on to the beginning. This is not at all what I was expecting.
 
Well this is disappointing so far. They just took their Moore tornado special from the other day and tacked a clip of Tim and Carl on to the beginning. This is not at all what I was expecting.

Perhaps there will be more at the end.
 
I'd have to agree with Shawn; it would have been better if they could have done something as a proper tribute to the three of them or waited until they could take the time dig into the dynamics of the El Reno tornado, rather than cut and paste something together. But at least they acknowledged them and their contributions to research.
 
Yeah. I'm glad they at least did that, I just thought it was strange and kinda felt like an afterthought.
 
I just finished watching the ACM Music Awards, during one of the performance dedicated to the Oklahoma tornado victims, Tim was one of the pictures that was displayed.
 
Well this is disappointing so far. They just took their Moore tornado special from the other day and tacked a clip of Tim and Carl on to the beginning. This is not at all what I was expecting.

From what I understand, the Moore, OK tornado special was already in the works and put together for the most part when the tragic events of El Reno happened. The tribute part was added into the show where they could fit it in, as was quite evident throughout the show and the focus on the Moore tornado. Perhaps going forward a full tribute focused solely on Tim, Paul and Carl can be put together.
 
Well this is disappointing so far. They just took their Moore tornado special from the other day and tacked a clip of Tim and Carl on to the beginning. This is not at all what I was expecting.

Well, it IS Discovery.... :rolleyes:
Given their tendency for hype and 'bending' of the facts to suit the script, I almost cringe at the thought of them whipping up some shallow 5 minute 'tribute' video.

I'm really hoping National Geographic or PBS/Nova do a proper biography of Tim and his research. (E-mail sent to both organizations.)
 
Yeah, I'm learning not to expect much from Discovery. I'd be more inclined to trust either of those other organizations to do a proper tribute of some sort.
 
Hey All,

I was fortunate to be able to attend the service yesterday. It was very moving. There was a portion of the service where attendees were encouraged to stand and share about their friends. Rich Keen (a CU professor) spoke at the service, and he suggested a tornado naming convention in honor Tim. It goes something like this:

Since a Plinian eruption of a volcano is named after Pliny the Elder, who died trying to collect data on the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in AD 79, perhaps a severe tornado of the sort that claimed the lives of the three chasers (who I understand did deploy probes in the path of this tornado) might be type-named with them in mind.

The name that was tabled at the service was a "Timian" Tornado (presumably, a large strong wedge tornado). On reflection I might suggest a "Timpaulcarlian" Tornado to honor the three claimed men. After the service Rich and I spoke with Tim's brother Jack, who would like to pursue the idea to implement such a naming convention. The above names are just ideas, and any variation (Samarian - although this might be confused with the ancient city Samaria) would do these men a tribute.

Last night I emailed Roger Edwards at NOAA per the suggestion of Ron Holle. Ron had been tasked with revision of the cloud atlas and this entailed some naming, I am led to understand. Here is the reply from Roger:

"There is no authority or committee for naming tornado types, which means nobody to direct such a petition to. Tornadoes run a spectrum or gamut, often during their own lifetimes, so the science hasn't focused on categorizing them beyond the damage rating or physical factors such as vortex dynamics. Of course we have colloquial shape descriptors for their appearance (wedge, stovepipe, rope, etc.) arising from chasers and spotters, and with heavy use, some of those have found their way into scientific and media usage. If enough folks simply referred to tornadoes of similar size and behavior as "Samaran", for example, perhaps the moniker would stick simply out of heavy use. That might be the best approach."

Incidentally, Roger wrote an excellent tribute to Tim here:

http://stormeyes.org/wp/2013/06/in-memoriam-tim-samaras-paul-samaras-carl-young/

So I am officially proposing that we as a community discuss an informal name for a large violent tornado which refers to our friends who were lost in Oklahoma. I am not authorized to start a new thread, so perhaps someone who is authorized can move this post to a new thread for discussion.

Kathy Samaras reminded us at the service to treat every day with our loved ones as special. It was a great reminder. Have a great day!

Ken Langford
 
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