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I need opinions on this Meteorology program if possible

Joe Campbell

California University of Pennsylvania, they offer a B.S. in Earth Science with a focus in Meteorology.

This school is basically my safety, I'm also applying to OU and Millersville.

here is a listing of the program

and here is a listing of the courses, the focus is in either Research (yay) or Broadcast (meh)

The main courses that I don't see here that I see on other programs are Atmospheric Dynamics I & II which I am unsure if it is covered under a different course name.

I'm open to any help, my plans are to eventually move on to graduate school for a MS so I feel I need to make sure I take an appropriate program

thanks in advance :)
You might tell the school what you're interested in doing with your degree, and let them advise you too...
I tried contacting them several times over the past few weeks, so far I haven't received a response.
depending on how far you want to go check out the college of dupage, i go there they have an excellent meteorology program and its not like its 10,000 a semester either, its a small school but i think you would enjoy it


just a thought i plan on transferring to OU after and if that doesnt work i always have northern illinois and U of I to work with too
I tried contacting them several times over the past few weeks, so far I haven't received a response.

I went to a school with over 30,000 people, yet the Meteorology Dept was very small and personal. You should expect to receive a reply very promptly from the department you are interested in.
honestly the only schools who continually responded, at least from the Meteorology dept, was Iowa State and Millersville.

I've talked to Dr. Clark over the years several times and he's good at responding, and Dr. Gallus (ISU) who assured me that you could do a program to prepare for graduate studies.

The only problem with ISU is the tuition, which is high.

I ♥ OU, and it's still mytop choice, but the distance (I'm in WV) is a big factor.
I too have been around for many years as a Met. since my days at SUNY Albany and I have never ever heard of that college. I would look elsewhere...esp. to ones that at the very least return your phone calls.

Also, if you're planning on getting your MS in Atmos. Science, you may want to seriously consider getting your BS in Meteorology and not just a degree with emphasis on Meteorology. You would be best served getting your core classes as an undergrad.
thank you, that information is actually very helpful and what I'm looking for. I'm an adult student and I'm planning on spending the next 6 years learning and I want to make sure I'm getting the best education available.
You're gonna get a degree in meteorology? Great!

Just be prepared to repeat "You want fries with that?" over and over and over again.

Even with a Master's degree, you are entering a highly competitive, low paying, low job security jungle. Good luck!

My vote: University of Missouri - Columbia (MIZZOU)......... great program!
Since you're in WV, have you looked into Penn State's meteorology program? They have one of the best in the country.

PSU isn't the easiest to get into by what I hear though. I have decent grades at my community college (3.57 GPA) however I'm sure transferring in there is more competitive than Millersville which is closer and has a decent B.S. program.
You're gonna get a degree in meteorology? Great!

Just be prepared to repeat "You want fries with that?" over and over and over again.

Even with a Master's degree, you are entering a highly competitive, low paying, low job security jungle. Good luck!

My vote: University of Missouri - Columbia (MIZZOU)......... great program!

I'm coming from having an AAS in IT... trust me, nothing in the job market is as cutthroat and competitive as that field
I know about that link, I've been researching this for several months, and have looked at programs at NCState, Southern Alabama, Colorado St, Denver Metro, FSU, OU, ISU, Maryland, UAH, UND, and many other places I can't list off the top of my head.

For example, ISU offers two BS programs, one that allows you to enter Calculus during semester 1, and one that has a prepatory math course prior to it. ISU also has the C6 even though it's so busy Dr. Gallus can't even use it. Little details like this make a big difference to me.

Many schools offer graduate programs only, such as Maryland or UAH (Bs Physics, Atmos focus at UAH, Maryland wants a BS in Physics or Math).

Believe me when I say I've done my homework, each university on that list that is even a remote possibility I have researched regarding the class size, tuition, academic program, student reviews, scholarship availability, and overall fit as far as uni is concerned. I've tracked down and spoken to random students (being part of another board that's general and quite large has some advantages).

I've researched the ACM as I'm in WV, and tried looking for BS programs under it (of course to no avail, the ACM is worthles these days because so many abused it).

To be honest, I don't know what part I want to be after I graduate. All I know is that I don't want to be in broadcasting. When I enter graduate studies, I will likely then decide where I want to go from there.

As to my dedication, this is not a decision I put lightly. I have known what I have wanted to do long before I began my search. There's more to the field than chasing storms, and it is not only meso level fun. I'm 27, about to finish a degree in a CC, and have worked in the IT field since I was 18. I decided to leave the field because regardless of money I didn't enjoy what I was doing. I hated the fact that I knew what I wanted to do as a career and I wasn't doing it. So during that time I have been planning this. Please don't confuse me with someone who watched Twister one to many times and now wants to chase storms.
One thing to consider, if you are attending college out of state,
I would take a good hard look at the tuition and fees the colleges
charges, usually universities will charge almost double being
a out of state student. Also, if you attend college, out of state,
they have a lot of rules when so being a resident of the state.

Sorry, I know about tuition, schools where it's offered, the levels of math and physics involved, the level of work that's usually demanded, the difficulty in going to school full time with a family... I've been working on this for years now, and intensely working on this (almost on a daily basis) for several months. I should have mentioned it earlier.

I have a list of schools that I'm looking into, the school I mentioned in my earlier post (Cal U) I hadn't heard of either until someone mentioned the program and low out of state tuition.

However I received a reply from that school, and by the email I got I was unimpressed as to the level of education from there.

I've narrowed my choices to:

Millersville - I've actually been in contact off and on with Dr. Clark at the school for about 6 years, usually with random meteorology related questions. In addition, I live and WV and the school is in PA, so it is close to where my family is and while they do not share an in-state exchange program such as the ACM, they do work together in tuition grants. I've also been in touch with admissions and the financial aid office and with my income, I feel I can get enough need-based aid to help offset much of the cost.

Iowa State - Currently my math is not up to what most true freshman undergrads would have these days. I graduated almost 10 years ago, and when I left school we were only required to have 2 years of math. I graduated then with Geometry, supposingly at the time on-par with Algebra II. These days I hear of kids graduating with Calculus. I've taken some college course work (about to graduate with a double major AS) but I doubt I will be ready for Calculus in the first semester. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bad at math at all, in fact when I take the courses I'm at the top of the class. Anyway, back on the point, I like ISU for thier program and thier ability to schedule a program for those that need to begin with a course lower than Calculus. Not that it's not possible in other schools, but they have a program specifically outlined for it and that is a bonus. In addition I like the general look of the school, and the feel of it. One problem (although completely unrelated and not technically a problem) is that I'm a huge Sooner fan and have been my whole life :eek:

Oklahoma - I really don't need to give a reason why this is a choice I hope :)

Millersville is my top choice due to location, however I am still waiting to apply (I have a current transcript 'issue' that might take a few more weeks to resolve) and I am not 100% sure I will be admitted, let alone into the met program off the bat.

UAH - I hear this school is very popular among aerospace and as such would have a fantastic Physics program, thier meteorology program is actually a Physics undergrad with a MS in Atmospheric Science which while great, seems a bit too broad and I want to take as many meteorology related courses as possible, which in the other programs is included.

So I'm really asking for thoughts on these undergraduate programs, both in quality and potential to go straight into graduate studies
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