Good tire recommendations

[Jason Foster]

Every tire made is a compromise. If it is a "high milage" tire that you can drive on for 80,000 miles, then it is hard rubber and will not "grip" the road as well.

Normally I say that is true...but good engineering and a little extra money also is a variable. Again...with the tires I recommended, all but the heaviest of the lead foot drivers will complain of the grip on the Hydro Edge or Triple Tred tires I commented on. In the Goodyear family I own another Assurance tire (the Touring) and it also is a 70,000 tire and the grip is great. I lost a little going from a 55 series (205/55 r16) to a 60 series, but I'll live with it, cause the ride and wet grip are so good (I only recommend mine if like me you already have separate snow tires).

 

[Rob Wadsworth]

Tried some Falken tires out of necessity. Very poor reason to buy (I know-I know); I wanted to get Michelins but there wasn't any on the shelf when I needed them. But I am OK with the Falkens, very reluctant about them at first. They are very quiet and not too bad with gas mileage at all. Highest speed rating and were a little cheaper than the Michelins. Did fine on wet roads this year.
BTW - 2WD Honda CR-V 2008 just for the record.

 

[J Tyler]

Normally I say that is true...but good engineering and a little extra money also is a variable. Again...with the tires I recommended, all but the heaviest of the lead foot drivers will complain of the grip on the Hydro Edge or Triple Tred tires I commented on. In the Goodyear family I own another Assurance tire (the Touring) and it also is a 70,000 tire and the grip is great. I lost a little going from a 55 series (205/55 r16) to a 60 series, but I'll live with it, cause the ride and wet grip are so good (I only recommend mine if like me you already have separate snow tires).

We all have different ideas of what is "great grip". It might be good enough for you, but for someone else (like me), a 70,000 mile touring tire is not going to cut it. That is why I said HE needed to figure out what HIS priorities were. If you bought a version of your tire that was produced with a softer compound, it would grip even better, but would wear faster. If it was produced with a harder compound, it would wear longer, but not grip the road as well. The one you bought might be the PERFECT balance between the two for -you-, but personally, I gladly give up longer tire life to get better grip. But, everyone has different priorities.

For my chase Xterra, I need excellent rain capability, but high speed dry is also very important to me.

On my Dodge Viper, dry weather ultimate grip is the ONLY priority for me. On the street, I run Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires, $583 each for the rears, $400 each for the fronts. They last less than 5,000 miles in street driving, but give the ultimate in dry weather grip. Soft compound gives ultimate grip, but bad tire wear. Oh, and they are total crap in the rain. But, I love them on that car.

 

[Keith Wilson]

Another vote for Dueller AT/REVOs (they're Bridgestone, not BFG tho! ). On my second set and can't say I anything bad about them. Their road manners on snow and wet is fantastic.

Bridgestone indeed. I don't know where BFG came from, but thanks for the correction. I'm still 100% satisfied with them!

 

[Bryan_Knitter]

I mentioned it in the other tire thread, but look at the general altimax hp. For my tire size (205/55-16), it was ranked 2nd in its class (high-performance all-season) behind a goodyear that was 2x the price. Its a VERY good tire for the $85 each I paid.

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[Jason Foster]

We all have different ideas of what is "great grip". It might be good enough for you, but for someone else (like me), a 70,000 mile touring tire is not going to cut it. That is why I said HE needed to figure out what HIS priorities were. If you bought a version of your tire that was produced with a softer compound, it would grip even better, but would wear faster. If it was produced with a harder compound, it would wear longer, but not grip the road as well. The one you bought might be the PERFECT balance between the two for -you-, but personally, I gladly give up longer tire life to get better grip. But, everyone has different priorities.

For my chase Xterra, I need excellent rain capability, but high speed dry is also very important to me.

On my Dodge Viper, dry weather ultimate grip is the ONLY priority for me. On the street, I run Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires, $583 each for the rears, $400 each for the fronts. They last less than 5,000 miles in street driving, but give the ultimate in dry weather grip. Soft compound gives ultimate grip, but bad tire wear. Oh, and they are total crap in the rain. But, I love them on that car.

I wasn't speaking about my personal preferrance alone. You fail to acknowledge that better engineering is a factor in tire life as well. As I've stated, I've done the research, everything from consumer reports, tirerack/discounttire, Road & Track and more. Additionally, I've asked dozens of owners, some who drive hard, some who were old lady types. If you (anyone) are driving on your tires sooooo hard that the grip needs to be super high.....YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG....or just dangerous as hell on the road.

Case in point: if I can make a 1970 Ford Galaxie (with 50 series Pep Boy tires) out corner a 90s Porsche Carrera (911)....than I think the grip of the HydroEdge or TripTred is way more than sufficient for chasers needing a well rounded tire, especially if a minivan (or crossover, car). If you need something better....well....go get performance tires and go to the track.

 

[J Tyler]

You've got to be kidding.

The reason I want a lot of grip on the street is to gain that extra margin of SAFETY. Tires with better grip give you shorter emergency stopping distance, better emergency lane change, etc. There is a reason I have never crashed a car on the street. I gladly give up tire life for that extra margin. It is freaking laughable for you to tell me I am "DOING IT WRONG" and "am dangerous as hell on the road" if you knew me. Exactly the opposite, I equip MY vehicles to be able to perform higher should the unexpected occur. I am well aware that good engineering is a factor, and that is why I gave you the example of the street tires on my Viper. The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires are considered by everyone (except you, I'm sure), the worlds best street performance tire, are VERY expensive, yet they are TERRIBLE in the rain and have TERRIBLE wear. That is because they gave up rain capability and long life to be the BEST in the DRY. Great engineereing can not overcome reality.

You continue to IGNORE the fact that not everyone has the exact same priorities YOU have. You have proclaimed "THIS is the tire all on earth should buy", and nobody is to consider anything else. OK. You got it. That is YOUR opinion. My opinion is that all tires have compromises and the buyer needs to decide what factors are important to THEM, and chose the tire that fits. Otherwise, they would not make "long life" tires, and "mud" tires, and "ultimate dry performance" tires.

I concede that I am not a meteorologist, and a lot of you guys around here know more about weather than -I- do. I know my place in those discussions. BUT, guess what I "AM" an expert at? Driving. I have my SCCA competition license. DO YOU? I am a high performance driving instructor (DE events on road courses) for car clubs in Texas and Oklahoma. ARE YOU? For 3 seasons, I raced a Dodge Viper in the Viper Days series. YOU? All my performance driving is done in production based vehicles. While you are reading consumer reports to learn about tires, I'm at the track talking to tire engineers in the garage area where they are asking MY INPUT. We race in the rain, in the dry, short tracks, longer high speed tracks, 10 lap events to 12 hour endurance races where tire life is imporant. This experience translates directly into street tires. Some events even REQUIRE street legal DOT tires to be used. I have more to learn about severe weather forecasting, but I know driving and tires.

I have stated my opinion, and defended myself from your attack. This childish pissing match about TIRES on a storm chasing forum isn't serving any purpose. I've given my opinion, you've given yours. The OP can make up his mind. If you wish to continue, please PM me as I will not respond publicly out of respect to the other members of Storm Track.

 

[f.vanalstine]

I too suggest Tire Rack. Find the comparitive owner's surveys of many brands of tires appropriate to your vehicle. Tires are owner rated in many catagories from wear and ride to wet and dry handling and braking from owner surveys over hundreds of thousands of miles. Find the tire that is rated highly in the catigories you deem most important to you and you likely won't go wrong.

Frank Van Alstine

 

[Ben Holcomb]

I for one am a big fan of my BFG All Terrain T/A's and will be buying another set this fall.