Forecasting Using Surface, 850, 700, 500, 300, 200mb charts?

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So how do you forecast using Surface, 850, 700 etc.. millibar charts? I try to look for boundaries(drylines, cold fronts, warm fronts, wind velocity etc..) but I'm not too successful and I find it hard identifying these boundaries. I know Mike Hollingshead talks about this topic on his DVD but he only shows a few "textbook" examples(still a great help though! ;) )

Are there any websites which show you how to do this?

I have a VNC server on my laptop, and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to spend a bit of their time showing me how to do it using Forecast Lab?
 
I don't know of too many websites that would educate you on this matter. I learned all I know from my meteorology classes at ISU. I know www.theweatherprediction.com has a lot to look at. Also, the SPC mesoanalysis page can be really good practice for applying what you learn. I'll give you some tips right here:

Surface
Look for boundaries, either in terms of thermal boundaries, wind shift lines, pressure troughs, or outflow boundaries. These can be locations of strong surface convergence, which can result in upward motion. Look for wind direction and speed. Generally, the more backed (i.e., more SEerly or even ESEerly) the surface winds, the better set up for strong low-level directional shear (assuming the 850 and 700 mb winds veer appropriately).

850 mb
Not much to look at at 850 mb except for wind direction and speed. Determine whether the 850 winds have veered or accelerated much from the surface winds to get a good idea for low-level shear. You could also look for low-level jets. Although LLJs may cause storms to be elevated, they pump in tons of warmth and moisture and can really cause shear to jump up. Some temp data can be useful at 850 mb, but better info is usually given at 700 mb.

700 mb
The biggest thing to look for at 700 mb is a cap. Look at the temperatures. In the spring and summer months, 10 or 11 is getting a little high, whereas 13 to 14 is nearly unbreakable. If you see anything over 14, expect clear skies unless the mother of all convergence boundaries is nearby. I attached a humorous image from a day in which you would notwant to be chasing in SE SD.

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Also continue to see if the winds are changing...shear through this layer is very important.

500 mb
Like the other layers, pay attention to wind speed and direction. They should both continue to change through this level. You can look at temperatures to determine mid-level instability (this is where the LI is determined). Temps below -5 are usually okay, but if you get above that, watch out...you may suffer some lack of instability. Look for troughs and ridges with associated vorticity. PVA at 500 mb is a good indication of where you'll find upward motion. The stronger the better (shortwaves tend to move faster and can have stronger PVA).

300/250/200 mb
I would look at 250 or even 200 mb in the late spring and summer for upper air info because the tropopause will be higher at that time of year. Thus, the jet stream and the fastest winds will probably be at this level instead of at 300 mb. Hopefully the wind speeds have accelerated from the surface up to this point. Supercells need plenty of deep layer wind shear (0-6 or 0-8 km shear). Also look for jet streaks. Upward motion is favored in the right entrance and left exit region of jet streaks (so long as they're linear...if a jet streak is curved, the inside-of-the-curve region has its motions enhanced).

Essentially, you want to look for anything that can cause upward motion in a region of instability and shear. Hopefully those areas are collocated. If you have access to model sounding data, like BUFKIT, I would suggest also looking at model soundings from specific areas to get a full profile of the atmospheric column over a given region.
 

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Wow! Thanks for the detailed response Jeff! The only 2 things I didn't understand are PVA, and the right entrance/exit stuff, I've never been able to understand that, I'll try reading the forecast handbook on it again. Are there any links to explain either of those? I've tried reading the stuff on theweatherprediction.com about it but didn't understand it too well.
 
Sam, go and read the weatherprediction site that Jeff supplied. It has all the stuff you want to know. I highly recommend you reading the whole site. It will take a while because there is a LOT of info, but it's worth it.
 
PVA stands for positive vorticity advection, which simply means the horizontal transport of air with higher vorticity into a region with lesser vorticity; this must occur in the mid-upper levels to generate upward motion. The Weather Forecasting red and green Handbooks, both written by Tim Vasquez (I believe he's a moderator on this forum) do give a few pages of explanation of vorticity and PVA. You should ask him about getting a copy of those books. They're not too expensive.

I believe a discussion on jet streaks is also found in one or both of those books.

Look up "linear jet streaks" or "jet streak theory" online and hopefully something about the dynamics and circulations of jet streaks will pop up.
 
PVA is an indicator of upward vertical motion...if a chart shows PVA this isn't always UVM but could be. One needs to look at the upper levels (500 and 700MB) and look for trofing and or Cold Air advection aloft. (colder air is always behind a trof)

BTW nice writeup Jeff..Haby's Hints are great and will help MANY understand forecasting from the top down (forecast funnel)
http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/

Also I will second the plug for Tim's book. The RED book is the best and most detailed IMHO. This book will help you out tremendously!
 
Get a copy of the Bob Miller's U.S. Air Force Air Weather Service Technical Report 200, which is the 'bible' of severe weather forecasting. It is an excellent introduction to severe weather forecasting.
 
Sam, you'll most likely find as much, if not more information on this stuff on the weatherprediction site. If you read that site thoroughly, I guarantee you that your knowledge will multiply in a very short time.
 
Jason, you seem very determined to get me to read that website ;)

Should I read every section, or just certain ones?

It does seem like a goldmine of information, but sometimes I get lost in a flurry of large words :(

I will be more patient and re-read the sections and use a glossary if I need to, since it sounds like it would be worth it in the end :)
 
Sam - I don't know that there's a five paragraph summary that makes you go "a-ha" and start forecasting. That'd put a lot of colleges out of business if it were something you can pick up with Cliff Notes.
 
Sam, I'm determined to get you to read that website because it answers most questions that new forecasters and storm chasers have. You're right, it is a goldmine of information, so take advantage of it. Don't let the large words shun you away. Take your time, and let it slowly soak in. When you're done, you'll thank me...I promise.

If I were you, I would read the whole site.
 
Jeff, thank you for taking the time to post that terrific and concise explanation of the various charts' uses. I've just recently begun playing around with the IDV software, as well as reading some of Tim Vasquez's books, and your brief explanations were helpful to me. I was really just wanting kind of a concise, basic understanding of the charts' uses in order to build upon while I read through some of the more verbose explanations... and yours was perfect for that. I even copied it word-for-word by hand, into my notes.

(Yes, I realize I'm bumping an older discussion, but it really helped me, so I hope you'll excuse me) :D
 
PVA stands for positive vorticity advection, which simply means the horizontal transport of air with higher vorticity into a region with lesser vorticity; this must occur in the mid-upper levels to generate upward motion.

Careful! PVA doesn't equal upward vertical motion!
 
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