Dangerous Hurricane Frances

[Jeff Snyder]

This topic is being actively discussed in the Target Area forum...

 

[David Schuttler]

but in here a normal conversation can be carryout without have to put a forecast in your discussion also.....

I for one would recomend to anyone heading to Florida, If you have never chased a Hurricane before Francis is not one to begin with unless you are riding shotgun with a well experianced hurricane chaser.

This is not one to be played with

 

[Carrie Halliday]

but in here a normal conversation can be carryout without have to put a forecast in your discussion also.....

I for one would recomend to anyone heading to Florida, If you have never chased a Hurricane before Francis is not one to begin with unless you are riding shotgun with a well experianced hurricane chaser.

This is not one to be played with

Much agreed. This is not the hurricane to cut your teeth on. She is one mean ombre and looking meaner by the day.

 

[Mike Peregrine]

The rest of us taxpayers can look forward to paying for all of the multi-$$$ homes built on those outter banks over the coming months ... I guess they wonder why we would build a house in tornado alley and we wonder why they would build one on a pile of sand. Meanwhile none of us understand why people even try to live in so. California.

 

[Tim Vasquez]

No forecast posts are allowed except in Target Area (including links to forecasting resources). The moderators have instructions to delete posts that violate the rule.

Due to the significance of the storm we will allow this thread to stand as long as it pertains to news about who's chasing and where, how the media is handling it, emergency management aspects, posts about relatives, economic implications, and so forth. However no discussion about wind speeds, storm surges, forecast tracks, storm structure, and intensity trends will be permitted here except as a passing reference. Everyone has posting privileges in Target Area now, and that's the place for discussion about these aspects.

This rule will apply to any other Frances threads that start in this section.

Tim

 

[Mike Peregrine]

No problem, tim -

Was just concerned that the forecast thread was becoming more and more cluttered with useless posts that have nothing to do with forecasting and wanted a place to keep the chit-chat -

Will be careful not to post any forecast-related items here.

 

[Glen Romine]

Well, I don't think those links were useful for specifically forecasting Frances - but your the boss.....

Seems only fair then though that the Target area noise be cleaned out as well....

[edit] ok, I see you have expanded your earlier rules. [/edit]
Glen

 

[Amos Magliocco]

In light of Tim's post, let me post some URLs maintained by the Weathervine stormchasers as they prepare to intercept Frances in the next 36 hours:

Weathervine main blog:

http://www.bnvn.com/weathervine/blog/vineblog.html

Jason Foster's blog:

http://www.onlinejason.net/hurricane/franc.../frances04.html

Chris Collura:

http://www.sky-chaser.com/

These are accounts of their activities while in preparation for intercept as opposed to forecasting, though they obviously discuss their impressions of the track. They may have the ability to maintain their internet access during much of the storm and afterwards through the use of the Sprint Merlin card, which was operational during the entire landfall of Charley.

An interesting aspect unfortunately for these chasers is that their homes are in the path and they have had to combine chase op preparation with securing their family and property. Best of luck and safety to all the chasers in the path of dangerous Frances this week.

 

[David Schuttler]

Over the weekend one of those ET like shows showed an island that is private that have multi-million dollar homes bought by the stars. There was maybe a 2 foot difference from the water level and front yards. I would think if not the winds the surge would sure get them...

They didn't really show the outline area of the surronding area so there might be some type of barrier away from the island..

 

[Mike Peregrine]

At least when we chase out here none of us usually have to worry about boarding up our families' homes before we go ... good grief ... that must put a whole new light on the subject for these guys -

 

[Mike Peregrine]

They didn't really show the outline area of the surronding area so there might be some type of barrier away from the island..

This has been a huge problem in North Carolina ... the barriers have eroded with all the storms - and now the beach is eroding. They actually had to move the Hatteras lighthouse back away from its previous location because the beach had eroded so badly over the years and there were fears that the lighthouse would just fall into the ocean.

http://www.nps.gov/caha/lrp.htm

 

[Glen Romine]

It will be interesting to see how the insurance industry bounces back as yet another hurricane aims for the coast. There is already chatter in the insurance industry of problems from Charley:

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/south...09/02/45494.htm

Of course, Florida does have a disaster fund to help out the insurance industry following the aftermath of Andrew, to the sum of ~ 15 billion.

http://www.fldfs.com/Companies/FHCF.htm

Not sure how much of a hit this fund took from Charlie - but even this may not save all insurers if the gold coast is heavily impacted.

Glen

 

[Anthony Petito]

I know there was some talk about how NASA may have some troubles due to the infrastrucure only being able to handle 125MPH winds. I browse Slashdot quite often, and while it's not very weather related, it offers some insight into why this hurricane may be NASA's godsend. Read some of the comments

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid...tid=160&tid=103

 

[Tim Vasquez]

It's also interesting how this news is taking away attention from the Republican National Convention.... and the storm is of course affecting Florida. What a strange twist.

Tim

 

[Glen Romine]

It's also interesting how this news is taking away attention from the Republican National Convention.... and the storm is of course affecting Florida. What a strange twist.

Tim

In West Palm Beach, folks have been asked to take down all political signs, etc....

http://www.pbcgov.com/PubInf/News_Room/09-...01-04_signs.htm

Given how critical Florida will be to both candidates - expect an overwhelming flood of federal aid is already in route. In fact, I just found this link....

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=13721

Glen