Another Black Eye For Chasers?

I was wondering if all the people following the DOW were with them or just tag alongs? They had quite a following.

I'm almost afraid to post this as it would surely cause yet another 10-page thread... but I know there's some curiosity out there... but the DOW/TIV does indeed have "quite a following"... it's called "The Discovery Channel"... they have contracted a production crew on the scale of something probably not too dissimilar to "The Deadliest Catch". They came to NWS DDC for about 5 hours of taping a few days prior to May 22nd. I think we saw a total of 26 people come into the office including production, the DOW crew, and TIV crew.

This is all the more reason why I will now never again take a chase vacation anytime from May 15 to roughly June 6 or 7. This year I'm going June 21-July 1 and I'm looking very much forward to it :)
 
Actually, I quite agree - the data collection vehicles need to exercise the same precautions. But the point I was trying to make is that if there are road blockages caused by chasers, then scientific data collection could seriously be hampered.

This is a way off topic comment, but I always wonder, just how many more supercells do they need to scan? I often wonder why I chase, as after a while, one realizes.....the structure is really largely the same(at least in a general sense of a nice supercell). I mean really. I can't begin to imagine the shear number of differing supercells that have now been scanned by the dows. Is there something they still need to see with the radars? Just something that crosses my mind from time to time.

Sort of on that same subject, and this topic, I saw the DOW groupies on the 22nd as well. I was going north as the DOW was parked OFF THE ROAD on the west side of the highway. The only gripe was what looked like some film crew getting video from the southbound lanes, so the DOW would be in the shot with the storm. Not a big deal, but when there are other chasers barely off the highway on the shoulder, on both sides, and you are trying not to hit them...well it'd be nice to move to the center, and not have to worry about the film crew in the southbound lanes. But, after a while, I wouldn't mind a little pre-tornado human debris. One less chaser clogging up the roads. That's sort of a joke.

I didn't have too many issues the 22nd as once I was on the highway south of Hill City, I used it to get north, then east, to get a bit away from the crowd and get some structure shots. There were a lot o chasers out, that's for sure.

The 23rd seemed worse, especially early on north of May OK. I can understand why that was though, everyone and their dog trying to figure out where to be with the storm cutting off the road. I think it mostly works both ways. People flying 100mph could slow down a bit, and IDIOTS doing 20 in a 60 could get off the freaking road, or drive faster. It would also be wonderful if the blinker would be used when you decide to flip the car around, by whipping it to the left to pull onto something, right across the passing lane some "crazy" person behind you might be trying to pass you with. Can't imagine the odds lasting much longer. Some driver is going to get T-boned something fierce doing that crap.

The worst drivers I saw the 23rd were a couple from the media. I clearly remember thinking, "oh so this is why they get so much crap". You'd think a loved one of theirs was bleeding to death in the car and they were trying to get them to a hospital....and they were very lost in doing so. The 23rd was the worst day I've seen as far as chaser convergence problems. It was really only annoying north of May though. I just left things at that point, then tried a bit harder to stay away from them later...didn't work too well.

In the end, it's probably 95% a numbers deal, with anyone there having the problems, also being a contribution to the problem to some degree. It's that other 5% that seem to make things 500% worse. Oh yeah, and like has been mentioned. Use a freaking gravel road to stop on! My lord what a simple, effective concept, that is used by so few(probably 25% of the group). I will drive back to a highway from a mile or so of on a gravel road, and there will be a big cluster of vehicles using the shoulder on the highway. Changing that would drastically help matters. Cops can certainly be writing tickets for that stuff, when things aren't so wild yet. They should. Stop writing articles and start writing tickets! Perhaps using the law can help.
 
I often wonder why I chase, as after a while, one realizes.....the structure is really largely the same(at least in a general sense of a nice supercell). I mean really. I can't begin to imagine the shear number of differing supercells that have now been scanned by the dows.
Except the Dows aren't seeing the entire supercell typically... and like Howie's group, are primarily looking at the tornadocyclone

We are still in need of some decent dual-doppler STORMscale datasets IMHO. That said, I do expect results. If you intercept tornado after tornado, it better be for additional knowledge. I'm not familiar enough with the DOW's operation, but I did see them presenting at the latest SLS. The commerical (TV) aspect is pretty disturbing in my opinion, however.
 
I was wondering about those who "dont really chase" but like to hang out and criticize and stir trouble. I was wondering about what they think about this situation. Anyone?
 
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It sounds like you saw the same two women (that get attention for their catchy name instead of their accomplishments as chasers; hint, hint) doing this that I did Brandon. I wasn't with any other cars when I went around them though.

I guess I am joining the club when I say that the same exact thing with the same exact people happened to us.
 
COD had a run in with the Discovery Channel people at some gas station when the DOW and the TIV people showed up. They kept filming us and were harassing one of the students with us; kept filming her and wouldn't leave her alone.

When we tried to leave, they kept blocking us and even tried to film one of the drivers up close with the video camera right up against his door as he was pulling out.

The next day, we saw an idiot from Channel 7 in Amarillo speeding through White Deer and got nabbed by a cop. Must not have learned his lesson as the sob soon zoomed passed us again at a very fast speed.
 
The next day, we saw an idiot from Channel 7 in Amarillo speeding through White Deer and got nabbed by a cop. Must not have learned his lesson as the sob soon zoomed passed us again at a very fast speed.

I can't speak for the guy in the Channel 7 truck, but I know in my vehicle (with media graphics on it) I get stopped about every 3rd chase by some cop somewhere. Why? Wanting some information about the storms for the day. I guess he figured a vehicle label with TV station graphics that say STORM CHASER would know, I don't know. Point is, don't assume a chaser you saw stopped was done so for some sort of violation.

That practice annoys me a little when I am trying to get from point A to point B, not that I mind giving them info, just that I don't often have a lot of time for BSing.
 
No this guy was definatly speeding. He was tailgating our first van for 2 blocks before passing at a high rate of speed.
 
As I said, I can't speak for him. I wasn't saying he wasn't speeding. But do you know for a FACT that is why he was stopped by the officer? Ch 9 black trucks from OKC speed like demons in TX, outside of their area no less and no one ever calls them out on it.
 
Dan, you should get a copy of the ticket next time you think that. Do cops really pull over tv people that much?
 
I don't know about the rest of them, but it happens to me quite a bit. Come to think of it, it happened some BEFORE I had the graphics, but not as much as now. There is one cop in Aspermont, TX will pull me over and ask me about the weather EVERY time I go through there and he sees me.

No need to be a smarty about it though. A LOT of assumptions are made and posted on the Internet as fact all the time, when they may simply not be the case.

Would any one of you be pissed if a cop pulled you over to ask about the weather, and I posted a picture of it on the forum and said you got stopped for speeding? I am betting so. I saw someone post something similar in one of their blogs a while back...it was a picture of a group that I was chasing with that day. We had all pulled over on the side to watch the developing storm. Here in about 10 minutes this cop shows up, pulls up behind us and flips on his lights, and proceeds to get out and ask about the weather and chat.

A few days later the blog post was pointed out to me where the picture showed the cop behind us with his lights on stating something about chasers that violated the law. Things are not always as they may first appear.

I'm just saying not always think the worst of people, that's all.
 
This may be slightly off topic but how many of you are chasing incognito? I dont have anything on my car and sometimes I get nearly run off the road and/or taligated because I guess I dont have any anemometers or flashing lights. I was pleasantly surprised yesterday to see I am not the only one who doesnt have all that stuff as there were quite a few "unmarked" vehicles out there.

And I have been given a ticket while chasing in a news vehicle - Kiowa, Ok (south of McAlester) and I was only going 5 over and he even wrote me up for no insurance since they didnt have a updated insurance card in there. We did fax him proof the next week and he dropped the no insurance. I was pulled over a few other times for questions but usually they would just follow me till I stopped then they would do the questioning.
 
Yeah that is the way to go Brian...been doing this for over 3 years now and less is better IMO. Cops often seem to be drawn to the colors black and red too so avoid those colors as well if renting a vehicle.
 
I was stopped in the chase van coming back from a tornado (ended up being straightline) -- but it was by a state trooper for 5 over. MSP is not friends with anyone, I've never had a problem with the locals. Fortunately a car hit a deer up ahead so he had to bail before writing...
 
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