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XM Question...Ground Receiver and the AVIATION package

I know someone asked this before but I don't think there was a clear answer.

Can I purchased the GROUND equipment and then subscribe to the aviation package for $49.99 a month?

This is the ground equipment that one would purchase
http://www.wxworx.com/ground/receivers.php

BUT can I subscribe to this 49.99 package and STILL get the high resolution maps?

http://www.wxworx.com/aviation/service_pricing.php
This package

OR is the AVIATION equipment different for airplanes?

Any help would be appreciated on this question.

Thanks

Beau
 
Yep You can. I just did it. I got the master mariner plan. Everything but shear and cloud tops. Much better deal.

Doug Raflik
[email protected]

The Master Mariner does look good.

At what point do you add the option for the street level mapping? Is that through a program that barron gives you or is that something you have to purchase sep?

Thanks again...I think the M. Mariner does look better than the aviation. I was concerned about the hardware question.
 
I did note on this page
http://store.wxworx.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

It says

Mobile Threat Net Premium
Price includes Mobile Threat Net Base Software, mapping upgrade to include topography and GPS connectivity, portable receiver, portable antenna, power cords (DC and AC), and a USB cable.



But the Mobile Threat Net base Software would only be for the ground subscriptions? No? The hardware for the aviation set is a bit different I guess?

If I order the ground hardware the software that is used for that can also be used for aviation?

Am I understanding that corrently?

Thanks
 
Doug Raflik Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:

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Yep You can. I just did it. I got the master mariner plan. Everything but shear and cloud tops. Much better deal.

Doug Raflik
[email protected]

Now when you say you don't get the shear product, does that mean it does not show the "Doppler Donuts" on the radar, or do you just not recieve the shear map. As far as cloud tops go do you still recieve satellite maps.
 
Jason I believe you dont get the donut shear gate to gate markers with the Medium packages such as the master mariner or the other 50$ services. i mean you dont need them but with the smoothing they have for the radar the donuts do help big time. It was pretty cool to see four areas of strong rotation in the MESO and four dounuts indicating those areas on June 12th 2004. But then again they have changed there prices for the whole WX WORX reciever so eveything might of changed.
 
Doug Raflik Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:

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Doug Raflik
[email protected]

Now when you say you don't get the shear product, does that mean it does not show the "Doppler Donuts" on the radar, or do you just not recieve the shear map. As far as cloud tops go do you still recieve satellite maps.

You still get satellite maps. I do not get the spinning wheels. And no shear map. (dont know what that is) I dont think the spinning wheels are worth an extra $50.
 
Barron is telling me on the phone that if you purchase a GROUND HARDWARE system and you order the Mariner Package then you will NOT be able to use the system.

They are telling me on the phone that the MARINER subscription package will NOT work with the ground hardware. They are saying you WILL NOT have the street level mapping and everything.

Any comments...
 
Doug Raflik Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:

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Doug Raflik
[email protected]

Now when you say you don't get the shear product, does that mean it does not show the "Doppler Donuts" on the radar, or do you just not recieve the shear map. As far as cloud tops go do you still recieve satellite maps.

You still get satellite maps. I do not get the spinning wheels. And no shear map. (dont know what that is) I dont think the spinning wheels are worth an extra $50.

Yes, you do get the "donut" markers with the Master Mariner plan.
 
There are 2 different things to determine here.

Hardware - get the Mobile Threat Net unit. It is the only one you can get GPS and premium mapping. It runs the Ground software. So anytime you update to a new version, you will need to install the updates for the Ground package (no matter what monthly service you are subscribed to).

Monthly Service - as far as I know, you can subscribe to the Ground or any Marine plan (I do not know about the Aviation plans). When I purchased my unit the rep acutally suggested starting with the Master Mariner plan and if I wanted the additional functionality upgrading to the ground plan later.

One note about "premium mapping". Don't expect the level of mapping you get with Street Atlas or other mapping software. It's not that detailed and you will have to click on roads to see what they are.

The above information is based on my experience only. :wink:
 
I guess my bottom line question is

Is there ANYONE among us that has purchased a GROUND receiver and is CURRENTLY using a aviation or mariner package?

I believe I was being lied to today by the people that sell this product. I say that because of HOW they answered my questions. It does not reflect very well on this company if they LIED to me.


Others within this forum have SUGGESTED that you can purchase a GROUND receiver and then subscribe to AVIATION or MARINER packages.

I am not the first person to ask this question within this forum. Nobody has ever answered the basic question. I don't know why. :)

Is it true or not? Can a person purchase the ground hardware and then subscribe to the aviation and or marine package and still get street level info? I know of at least two other people who have asked but have never been answered.

I guess this should be answered by someone who has done it? Is there a chaser among us who has done what I have asked?

Thanks for your input...

Beau
 
There are 2 different things to determine here.

Hardware - get the Mobile Threat Net unit. It is the only one you can get GPS and premium mapping. It runs the Ground software. So anytime you update to a new version, you will need to install the updates for the Ground package (no matter what monthly service you are subscribed to).

Monthly Service - as far as I know, you can subscribe to the Ground or any Marine plan (I do not know about the Aviation plans). When I purchased my unit the rep acutally suggested starting with the Master Mariner plan and if I wanted the additional functionality upgrading to the ground plan later.

One note about "premium mapping". Don't expect the level of mapping you get with Street Atlas or other mapping software. It's not that detailed and you will have to click on roads to see what they are.

The above information is based on my experience only. :wink:

Hey there

Yeah the guy told me if does not cover all the streets. That would prob be more true around my rural area...than say Atlanta. As long as I can get street mapping with a MARINE package then I would be fine with it.

That is my basic question...

They do not make it easy on the consumer. $$$
 
I guess my bottom line question is

Is there ANYONE among us that has purchased a GROUND receiver and is CURRENTLY using a aviation or mariner package?

Doug answered your question.

Yep You can. I just did it. I got the master mariner plan. Everything but shear and cloud tops. Much better deal.

Doug Raflik
[email protected]

If by Dougs answer you can assume tha the gets street level mapping then that answers my question :)
 
Beau, I think you are confusing a couple things here. Getting street level mapping has nothing to do with the XM weather service you receive. It only has to do with the hardware you purchase and the software that comes with it.

The monthly plan you subscribe to only deals with the weather data you receive (radar, shear, satellite, lightning). The monthly subscription services have nothing to do with GPS or street level mapping.

So even if you could purchase an aviation system and subscribe to the $99 ground monthly service you would NOT have street level mapping. As I posted earlier you ONLY get GPS and premium mapping with the mobile threat net ground hardware system.
 
Beau, I think you are confusing a couple things here. Getting street level mapping has nothing to do with the XM weather service you receive. It only has to do with the hardware you purchase and the software that comes with it.

The monthly plan you subscribe to only deals with the weather data you receive (radar, shear, satellite, lightning). The monthly subscription services have nothing to do with GPS or street level mapping.

So even if you could purchase an aviation system and subscribe to the $99 ground monthly service you would NOT have street level mapping. As I posted earlier you ONLY get GPS and premium mapping with the mobile threat net ground hardware system.

And THIS is where they lied to me. They told me that I could NOT get a Marine subscription package with the Ground Receiver. I asked him three times if this was possible. He said no. He said it would not work. He totally lied to me.

I told him I live near KY Lake and that I wanted to get the XM Ground Receiver hardware and the Mariner Subscription package. He told me no.

So I guess I was lied to.

Go figure
 
Beau, I think you are confusing a couple things here. Getting street level mapping has nothing to do with the XM weather service you receive. It only has to do with the hardware you purchase and the software that comes with it.

The monthly plan you subscribe to only deals with the weather data you receive (radar, shear, satellite, lightning). The monthly subscription services have nothing to do with GPS or street level mapping.

So even if you could purchase an aviation system and subscribe to the $99 ground monthly service you would NOT have street level mapping. As I posted earlier you ONLY get GPS and premium mapping with the mobile threat net ground hardware system.

To be clear here...he said that the two would NOT work together. I was not confused when I asked him. I specifically called to find out if they would tell me I could purchase the ground hardware and use the cheaper marine or aviation package. I have read the threads in here and on Wx Chase that said you could do that. According to them you can not. According to members here (who I believe) you can.

They basically are trying to sell the $99 package even though you CAN use the cheaper packages. I don't know what is in it for them? I assume they get a kick back from XM? Why would they tell me that I could not use these packages with the ground hardware?

It was a manager that called me back. One would think they would answer your questions with a straight answer. I guess not.
 
Thanks for the answers and private emails that members have sent to me. It is a expensive to purchase this hardware and I appreciate those who have answered my questions :)

THANKS A BUNCH!!!!

Beau
 
Originally posted by Scott Taylor+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scott Taylor)</div>
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As I posted earlier you ONLY get GPS and premium mapping with the mobile threat net ground hardware system.

Shiela, could you point me to the information that states this? According to this page -

http://store.wxworx.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

It looks like all of the packages offer GPS and premium mapping.

Thanks
Scott[/b]

Nope, doesn't look like I can anymore :lol:

When Mobile Threat Net was split out from WxWorx, I believe it was the only option with the premium mapping. You had to go to www.mobilethreatnet.com to order this system (which is how I got mine). At the first of March, it was all brought back in under WxWorx. You're right, it looks like they are offering GPS and premium mapping for all hardware packages now. And if you don't want it, you can take off $250, which is cool.
 
Cool, thanks. hehe, had me worried there for a minute... I ordered the a setup this morning but will be running the aviation plan + delorme earthmate.

G'day
 
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