Bill Tabor
EF5
Now that it seems to be established that TIV has possibly intercepted and shot video from within a tornado, the question comes up 'Were they the first?". See other thread: http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7516
TIV claims that no one has done this before - see: http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102748 first paragraph. We also know Steve Green with the Tornado Attack group is trying to do the same.
Is TIV really the first. I have heard from other chasers that over the years a number of chasers have actually been in the rotation of a tornado briefly, and some multiple times. Do any of these veteran chasers have dash cam footage of any of these events making them the first?
What about Tim Samaras? I heard that he had a probe planted in the path that took video. Is this true? While this may be video from a inside a tornado it still isn't the chaser shooting the picture while there so this probably disqualifies.
What about David Drummond? We all remember a couple years ago seeing David's exciting video clips online with Melissa where they enter the path of an apparent fairly weak (apparently) multi-vortex tornado. No doubt they are there and videotape the event. It is somewhat unclear as to if one of the vortices actually hits them or if they manage to dodge them, but it appears one briefly does. If so....doesn't that make David Drummond the first on record to shoot video from inside a tornado technically?
I think this needs to be answered because historically someone will get credit for the event. I'd think that along with the credit will come cash from interested parties and video production companies wanting to show the video over and over and promote it.
If someone other than TIV was the first, then I think it is a disservice to promote TIV as the first. This seems to me kind of like copyright infringement.
Anyway I think perhaps the chase community should be the first to make this decision, and any publicity to the contrary should probably be challenged. Otherwise it seems every year we will have a new person showing up on the scene wanting to do 'what no one has done before' - LOL and shoot video from inside a tornado.
Now perhaps TIV gets better footage and drives into a better, or more traditional looking tornado vortex, but in my opinion better does not mean first.
What are your opinions here?
TIV claims that no one has done this before - see: http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102748 first paragraph. We also know Steve Green with the Tornado Attack group is trying to do the same.
Is TIV really the first. I have heard from other chasers that over the years a number of chasers have actually been in the rotation of a tornado briefly, and some multiple times. Do any of these veteran chasers have dash cam footage of any of these events making them the first?
What about Tim Samaras? I heard that he had a probe planted in the path that took video. Is this true? While this may be video from a inside a tornado it still isn't the chaser shooting the picture while there so this probably disqualifies.
What about David Drummond? We all remember a couple years ago seeing David's exciting video clips online with Melissa where they enter the path of an apparent fairly weak (apparently) multi-vortex tornado. No doubt they are there and videotape the event. It is somewhat unclear as to if one of the vortices actually hits them or if they manage to dodge them, but it appears one briefly does. If so....doesn't that make David Drummond the first on record to shoot video from inside a tornado technically?
I think this needs to be answered because historically someone will get credit for the event. I'd think that along with the credit will come cash from interested parties and video production companies wanting to show the video over and over and promote it.
If someone other than TIV was the first, then I think it is a disservice to promote TIV as the first. This seems to me kind of like copyright infringement.
Anyway I think perhaps the chase community should be the first to make this decision, and any publicity to the contrary should probably be challenged. Otherwise it seems every year we will have a new person showing up on the scene wanting to do 'what no one has done before' - LOL and shoot video from inside a tornado.
Now perhaps TIV gets better footage and drives into a better, or more traditional looking tornado vortex, but in my opinion better does not mean first.
What are your opinions here?