Tornado Hunter show

Dan Cook

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So what did everyone think? I thought the videos were pretty good.

*** Keep in mind that any flaming or personal attacks in this thread will not be tolerated and infractions will be dealt out if need be. ***
 
I thought the videos were good but wondered what the point of Randy Hicks trying to get the camera in the device to get in and film a tornado was all about. I didnt think enough time was explained about that and I've honestly never heard of them doing that til now...

I've known Lanny sort of the last few years and he was Lanny as I know him, He's being himself with this show and personally I respect him for that. I knew Greensburg was tough for Lanny and most chasers who encountered it because they've never seen something so powerful and literally seen a town get destroyed like that before. It showed the human side of Lanny and Randy. The videos as Dan mentioned were great..

I assume this is only a one time show? It seemed that way.. If someone knows feel free to tell me..
 
Some amazing video, for sure, especially Randy's view of the two tornadoes merging from I believe 2003(?). Some great shots of the Greensburg wedge, as well.

Since we're not allowed to discuss the attitudes portrayed by most throughout most of the show without consequences, I really only have one question for clarification. Randy states that he was the first to successfully deploy a camera probe that got hit by a tornado. Is this completely accurate? I know it's been done, but I was just trying to get dates straight in my head.

Again, some really good video on this show. As for the rest.........


P.S. -- I believe that while Freedom of Speech is NOT allowed on the board, I do believe that at some point more discussion should be allowed on this subject in its entireity, because I believe it does affect the chaser community, right or wrong. Call it the off-season if you will, this attitude has and will become more prevalent, and I think it's something that should not be ignored or supressed from being discussed.
 
man, i caught the ass end of the program...

but i saw a lil bit...from what i saw, it blew the TIV documentary away...

i thought those guys were straight, and their video was too...
 
I was surprisingly impressed with the show. I thought they did a great job with it. One thing it got me thinking about though is that this is 1 show(I assume) and the TIV show was a series. Its obviously much easier to keep it more interesting during the span of 1 show than an entire block of them.
 
Got home too late to catch the opening segments, but I had to have a reality check when I realized that I was jumping between two different channels, both covering storm chasing (and Greensburg in particular). Thinking back ten years, even a single portion of a show on tornadoes would have been an event for me, and now we have both Sisters and Outlaws chasing storms on cable.

On top of that, the Storms of 2007 got here on Christmas Eve (along with the other three in the 'box set') and is spinning in my DVD player awaiting my command...

I hope I'll get to see a replay of both to catch the full jist of things, but meantiime I think I'll just skip judgemental comments on the two broadcasts and bask in the suddenly dawning reality that two chasing programs were scheduled in competition with each other. Amazing...

Perhaps we are only a decade away from The Chase Channel on digital broadcast everywhere.
 
Anyone want to help a lazy buddy out and let me know when this show will be replayed?

EDIT: Got it, thanks.
 
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I very much enjoyed the show and found the videos quite spectacular. I would not want to take the risks that they take, but then again, that's why they call themselves "outlaws".
I also like the fact that while portreying this brand of chasing procedure, the show clearly described standard chasing rules, how most chasers conform to standard protocol and how the outlaw team consciously and deliberately chose to break those rules. Thus it was the best of all worlds, I enjoyed the interviews, enjoyed the video yet the integrity of the overall chasing community was reinforced in the process.
It certainly brought the movie "Twister" to real life! My hope is that some young non-meteorology aware "wannabe" won't see this and think that "if they can be outlaws, so can I", and take risks that would seriously injure or kill themselves.
 
I have to strongly disagree with Stormtrack policy on limiting what we can discuss about the Outlaw Chasers. I understand the need to keep things civil but when you have a group that is so in your face as these guys are they are begging to be bad mouthed. From their myspace page (and every where else they appear for that matter) they are fighting some battle with unnamed chasers in the community and 'breaking all the laws' of civilized chasing.

To find out more about us go to http://www.spweblog.com/extremehillbillychazers/ to see who we are fighting with now!

To me this all seems very contrived pitting the Outlaws against the rest of the chasers out there. Well the rest of us chasers should be able to speak our views.

With that being said I do enjoy the video they get and I have personally broken the rules the laid out in the show as:
1) No dirt roads
2) Don't chase at night
3) Don't core punch
We break those 'rules' everytime we go out on a chase. The rules we don't break are being civilized to people, not cussing at everything, driving in a safe manner and not making up conflict to seem like martyrs.

As far as the Outlaw's Caminator video probe, I found it interesting that in a past NGC show they had not set the camera focus to infinity and recorded the rain on the glass instead of the tornado. In this show it was described as the camera was jarred loose but you could clearly see the focus was not set. They took some liberties here with what really happened in the intercept.

I think they're video could stand on it's own as just amazing video of up close tornadoes, I don't get the need for all the made up conflict with these guys!
 
The bashing rules apply to everyone, not just those that are popular.

Well the rest of us chasers should be able to speak our views.
They are speaking their views on their own personal websites and blogs. Something which you are obviously free to do as well. If you don't like what they are saying there, why are you posting links here giving them traffic?
 
I really only have one question for clarification. Randy states that he was the first to successfully deploy a camera probe that got hit by a tornado. Is this completely accurate? I know it's been done, but I was just trying to get dates straight in my head.

I have not seen the show yet, so I can't comment first hand. I did hear about this claim second hand. To clarify the record, Casey Crosby was the first to successfully deploy a camera probe in the path of a tornado in 1997. The device was the Dillo-Cam made by me. Tim Sameras (sp?) has since had some much better deployments with his probes.
 
A+ show.

I've seen some stuff on here - and not seem some stuff - since I joined this board (at the time of this post, this means "a few hours back"). Namely with stuff I've not seen, where are the Outlaws' posts that were replied to in the other thread? Can mods take away posts on this BBS without the thread indicating "this post has been deleted" or something? I'm guessing that's what happened.

But (and to stick in line with what this topic is supposed to be about) they have a front that's for their show and their work. It's only a tactic that separates them from the crowd. Whether the really hold any sentiments against the storm chasing community in general or not, they made a heck of a show with great footage and they have stamped their image. The only thing I thought the show was missing was from CourtTV itself: a disclaimer for any high schoolers (or dumb late-20's math graduate students) to "not try this at [or within a day or two's drive of] home."

Really, it's much ado about nothing. It's sort of like music: Marylin Manson, although I'm not a personal fan, really designed a bad-boy image and made it work, despite the fact that he's far from such in personal interviews and writings. Even "Larry the Cable Guy" takes on an "ignorant hick" persona proudly, to the point where many fellow comedians call him out as a smart man selling a package. I think this is what the Outlaws are - as supposedly "ignorant" as they want to come off, they on the inside know more about weather than I'll likely ever know.

It's what sells. They have the kind of persona that made my roommate (who didn't know about them prior) shake her head in disbelief but inevitably keep watching. I already knew about who they are from Reed and Joel's TV comments section, where they have openly traded respect for each other despite the Outlaws putting R&J "on the spot" for "giving away their best stuff for free."

Sure, they'll keep their attitudes that have won them a program. They might bite and scratch at us, maybe even do and say things we could consider rude if we meet them on some barren stretch in front of some storm. But their footage in and of itself is no more and no less on par with many others, and they have tons of respect even if they put on a front to not show it for public perception.

They might never wish to settle down with a latecoming neophyte Texan like myself for a beer after a chase, but I know if I'm wrapped around a tree somewhere and they're the first to find me I'll get taken care of. And I'd gladly do the same for them.

As for the rules, well, from what I've studied and heard and watched meticulously nearly every day since June in preparation for crunch time,

1) Dirt roads - I'm going to stay off of these in my Civic. If I can ever afford a nice, large truck or something, sure. Otherwise ...

2) Night - since I'm notoriously a night owl, I'm going to start looking at all available information on how to night-chase once '09 comes around and I have some experience during the day under my belt. I don't care about videos or whatnot, if I chase down a blowing twister uncharacterized (or, forbid it, undetected) by radar, and give valuable information that could save lives, then all the past and future effort I have and will ever put into this will instantly pay off.

Greensburg was struck at night - but people were still awake and a good part of them were saved just by that. Florida's disaster was at the witching hour, when everyone was asleep, and even more people were killed there because of that. I was awake when that happened. I would hate to be awake and have a tornado hit anywhere near me here in Iowa if there were dangerous forecasts beforehand and if I decided just to stay home ... there must be good suggestions that I'll find to chase at night.

3) Punching a core - when I can get a Sherman tank I guess I can be all right with it. But if I do it now I'm too frightened that my windshield is going to collapse in on me and I'll be so much dust in the wind for whatever follows the core. :eek:

Maybe the three rules should be, make sure you can lend a hand to those in the path of disaster if there's not someone there already, or at least make sure a crew proper to handling the situation is there (especially in the case of live wires, etc.); don't park under a friggin bridge in emergency tornado situations; and be prepared to accept risks of driving down dirt roads, get caught up on night hunting, and don't punch a friggin core with your nine-year-old son in the car (uhm, I hope that guy doesn't post here ...).

The show wins for sticking to its own footage. All fronts they put on aside, it was a real show all the way and they deserve my respect for not using R&J's or anyone else's stock cutaways when it would "look better" than their own stuff.
 
I thought it was a pretty good show actually. Turned out better than I thought it would. Seeing two different vantage points of the same tornadoes was pretty cool.

There were a few things I disagreed with, but overall it was pretty well done.
 
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