• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Tornado Emergency

rdale

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At the NWS partners meeting last week, it was announced that there is potential for putting a TE into the NWS directives...

Proposed changes to 10-511:

In exceedingly rare situations, when a severe threat to human life and catastrophic damage from a tornado is imminent or ongoing, the forecaster may insert the headline "...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR [GEOGRAPHIC AREA]...". Additionally, in such a situation, this headline should only be used when reliable sources confirm a tornado, or there is clear radar evidence of the existence of a damaging tornado such as the observation of debris.
 
Interesting........ Don't know how to react to that one. I suppose enough has been said already on this topic, I just hope the FAR is 0.0.

-John
 
Yes, agree. Not sure what else can be said. It is a bad idea - imo. I guess super tornado emergencies are next? Severe thunderstorm emergencies for winds over 80 mph? I know peopel can post examples from both sides of the fence. Greensburg worked out. Many others have not.

I can just see it now - an EF3 or EF4 hits a town/city without a tornado emergency. People will complain - "Why no tornado emergency?" Then in another town a tornado emergency will be issued and the tornado will fail to show up. Another town will have a "simple" tornado warning and people will say "oh it isn't going to be too bad because there isn't a tornado emergency".

Either you take shelter when a tornado warning is issued or you don't.

From Rdale's post...
reliable sources confirm a tornado, or there is clear radar evidence of the existence of a damaging tornado such as the observation of debris.



Reliable such as trained spotters and chasers who report wedges when there really isn't a "real" wedge?
Reliable such as sheriff departments? Police?

Damaging tornado? Compared with a non-damaging tornado?

From Rdale's post...
the forecaster may insert the headline "...TORNADO EMERGENCY

So, some forecasters may not choose to do this? Some may choose to do this? One forecaster may think radar shows a clear indication of a tornado - another forecater may not?

But we have been round and round on this subject. Guess we will soon have tornado emergencies - officially. :) This ranks right up there with PDS boxes.
 
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