Topography and tornadogenesis

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First of all I would like to say I'm honored to be accepted into the Stormtrack community. I have been reading this forum for a couple of years and have learned a lot from you all and hope to contibute something positive over time.

In the past couple of years I have been studying severe weather and have come across articles in the AMS Journal and research papers discussing the effects of topography on storm development. The one I just read places a lot of importance on soil mositure for dryline storm development. It alludes to an "inland sea breeze" mechanism providing the needed third ingredient of lift. It made me think of tropical storm Erin last year, which if you recall made landfall in Texas and deteriorated until the remnants passed over rain-soaked Oklahoma. Erin then re-intensified to tropical storm stregnth again and even reformed an eyewall.

The question I pose is this: Do you all think that water impoundments and irrigation affect the development of thunderstorms and therefore by default the number of tornadoes? And more importantly, should these play any part in picking a chase target area with all other factors being similar?

Here are links to the article I am referring to in my question:

http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/...=1520-0493&volume=128&issue=07&page=2165&ct=1
 
An area being heavily irrigated that would normally dry certainly does contribute to boundary layer moisture. The crops or whatever releases this moisture from the ground through transpiration. A rain soaked region contributes to boundary layer moisture through evaporation (the same way the GOM does). These two processes are collectively known as evapotranspiration. While difficult to measure evaporation and transpiration rates, dewpoint change is a good proxy. over the rain soaked region, under heavy incoming solar radiation, evaporation will be significant, leading to locally high dewpoints relative to the surrounding region. This can lead to a storm environment characterized by lower LCLs and effectively more surface based CAPE.

The correlation between LCL height and tornadogenesis has been researched and seeming well established. See Robert Prentice's Reply to a topic on this just a few days ago. He really does a great job explaining it so no need fo rme to repeat. http://stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16547

Also something to note, along the borders of these irrigated regions there can likely be a vast difference in vegetation, this can cause the land to heat differently during the day. This typically creates what is known as a differential heating boundary which can further serve to increase surface convergence (possibly leading to initiation) and can enhance 0-1 storm-relative helicity. These boundaries also occur along the edge of a rain soaked region (like where a lone supercell tracked the day before). And just to throw it out there, cloud shields can cause differential heating as well. There is a good bit of research going on now at UAH on convective initiation concerning this type of boundary.


So yes... localized regions of higher soil moinsture can affect tornado potential.
 
How about a flooded area?

Do you think that all of the extra water around here would be enough to possibly raise the dewpoint noticeably? I'm in Norhtwest Missouri, where every river has at least minor flooding.

I'm thinking that Sunday night and into Monday that at least strong storms will rumble through the NW MO, SW IA, and SE NE area. With the ground being saturated, crops beginning to grow (transpiration), and the excess of flood water make a difference to storm development? Possibly initiating storms earlier in the day?

Now that I'm aware of the situation I'm ready to look at what happens throughout Sunday evening and overnight.
 
Do you all think that water impoundments and irrigation affect the development of thunderstorms and therefore by default the number of tornadoes?

Thunderstorms...yes. In general, the larger/deeper the body of water the more significant the impact. For example, sea breeze and lake breeze circulations are lifting mechanisms which help produce thunderstorms all the time. However, there aren't large bodies of water (e.g. Lake Michigan) over the central US. Mesoscale soil moisture/crop differences can play a part, but their impact is not well understood or easily forecastable.

Tornadoes...probably, but this is a complex, indirect, and poorly understood relationship. Heck, science still does not understand how supercell tornadogenesis works. That is why the VORTEX II experiment is scheduled for 2009 and 2010.

And more importantly, should these play any part in picking a chase target area with all other factors being similar?

This is problematic. There aren't any large bodies of water (e.g. Lake Michigan) over Tornado Alley / Chase Alley. Small reservoirs are generally too small to make much of a difference. Mesoscale soil moisture/crop differences can play a part, but their impact is not well understood or easily forecastable.
 
Thanks for the replies. The topic of topography and tornadogenesis has intrigued me for a while because here in Middle TN tornadoes tend to prefer to touch down in certain areas more than others. One place they tend to touch down is the county in which I live. So I am trying to read all I can on the topic.

Nick, I am probably not qualified to give a definitive answer to your question but the paper I referenced in my original post addresses your question to a degree. It does appear that flooded areas and saturated ground can affect storm development. I'm not really sure that floodwaters downstream from where the precipitation occured would be enough to have a great impact though. I think the saturated ground plus all of the tributaries flooded in the area where the precipitation fell plays a bigger role. That is not based on anything I have read, I'm just deducing that so I definately stand to be corrected. Here is the link again: http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?...page=2165&ct=1

If you find anything else online on the topic please feel free to reply to this or PM me, I am very interested in reading more. I'll do the same.
 
I have somewhat of a contrarian view about evapotranspiration's effect on severe storms. At some level it seems "obvious" that more low-level moisture improves the environment for storms; however I think the factors involved make this a minor effect for the situations being discussed -- and even an inhibiting effect for storms triggered by diurnal heating.

Anecdotally it's pretty well accepted around these Arizona parts that significant summer monsoon precip one day tends to discourage storm development the following day. This appears to be so despite the fact that the intense sun heating and relatively dry (usually mid-60s dewpoints or less) air makes evaporation considerably more effective than in the Alley.

Over the course of a day evapotranspiration adds essentially no additional Theta-E potential storm energy to the atmosphere. The additional latent heat is balanced by diminished sensible heat. Only over many days is the air mass energy changed significantly by surface moisture.

The favorable profile for discrete severe storms is one with a "breakable" cap, i.e. where a temperature inversion inhibits clouds and convection until the combination of sufficient heating and dynamic forcing releases the potential storm energy. All things equal additional surface moisture should tend to increase low cloud coverage and decrease surface heating.

There is some statistical research that spring season precip positively affects both the frequency and locus (dryline location) of severe storms in the Alley. I think this is a different discussion; and one where the role of a sharpened dryline boundary plays a large part.

Now the role of cold-pool boundaries in storm development is pretty well established. Wide-scale precip or flooding almost certainly establishes boundaries that can be exploited by transient sources of dynamic forcing and forcing due to the boundary itself. Also, wide-scale evapotranspiration will increase the potential energy of an air mass over a multi-day time scale if the air mass hangs around over the same area. The typical severe storm situation I believe we're talking about here is highly advective; and the air mass is from a tropical source and doesn't linger very long over a given area.

So in summary I seriously doubt impoundments and irrigation (the question) play a significant role that can be exploited in picking a chase target. The existence of boundaries from wide-scale flooding, nocturnal MCSs, etc., should be noted and can be exploited. IMHO, FWIW.
 
I have somewhat of a contrarian view about evapotranspiration's effect on severe storms. At some level it seems "obvious" that more low-level moisture improves the environment for storms; however I think the factors involved make this a minor effect for the situations being discussed -- and even an inhibiting effect for storms triggered by diurnal heating.

Well, as a proponent of ET, I do have a summary of ET and chasing on my website:

http://members.shaw.ca/wxdog/ET/ETbackground.html

David's comments are for the most part very sound. Being from the Northern Plains where the affect of ET seems to be more profound, I can attest that advection of moisture does dominate. But since advection is occurring, local ET is advecting elsewhere. Local buildup over a few days is actually quite hard. Advection of upstream ET-enhanced moisture into your area would be the main culprit. That said, when the crops are at their peak ET phase, local one-day impact can be quite noticable. But as I point out, the effect is simply taking a marginal day and making it into a better storm potential day.

David's comment about sensible heat is important, but it's actually more to do with preventing the cap from being broken. This concentrates the ET-enhanced moisture in the boundary layer by providing later convective initiation.

The impact of local pockets moist/dry air is fuzzy and some research (such as the recent UNSTABLE project in Canada) is exploring that side of things. Larger discontinuities, such as large lakes, can set of lake breeze boundaries that could favor convergence for convective initiation and/or localized tornado potential when storms cross those boundaries.

I'll be starting my ET predictions again this spring in about 2 weeks.

Later!

Pat
 
Urban sprawl and tornadogenesis

How does urban sprawl affect tornadogenesis? I have lived in Kansas City Metro since the '60s. In that time I have watch tornado occurance seemingly pushed further and further away from the center of the city.
 
To address some of the original poster's concerns, I would take some of that research article you cited with a grain of salt, to wit:

1. Despite the original reference to an "inland sea breeze" being a necessary third ingredient for lift, if you look down to the footnote for the article cited, it only takes to to an abstract which doesn't even directly refer to the term "inland sea breeze", let alone define what is meant by the term, and - as far as we can tell - only refers to a singular "squall line" event of which we know nothing of its location, etc. In terms of general chasing and forecasting severe weather, I wouldn't worry too much about the sea breeze, unless your target is within about 60 miles of a coast line - and even in that case you still need powerful synoptic conditions such as instability to produce severe weather. Yes, the sea breeze can serve as a source of convergence and therefore lift in certain areas at certain times of the day, but its hardly a primary factor in forecasting severe convection.

2. The study concluding that 70% of severe weather in the "Great Plains" occurs within 200 miles of the dry line really isn't statistically relevant. After all, this covers 400 miles of a west to east territory. You can find different topographical definitions of what constitutes the "Great Plains", but 400 divided by 70% = ~570 miles, and this would take in most, if not all, of the territory.

I don't want to discourage anyone from reading technical research papers, but sometimes you get alot of citations that are just filler material and can lead one astray. I'm not accusing the authors of being intellectually dishonest, but its important to realize that some of these papers hold more scientific value than others.
 
Interestingly, topography does play a major hand in the development of torndoes in the UK.

There is growing evidence that various headlands, promontories and islands around our coasts may be responsible for tornado development, as well as ranges of hills and ridges inland.

One particular land-form that tends to spawn tornadoes is our Isle of Wight (IOW). Five tornadoes have been reported in the small town of Selsey in the last thirty years, this small town situated to the northeast of the IOW, and many other tornadoes have also occurred along other stretches of the English coastline in the vicinity of this island. The tornado that struck Selsey at 23:45 on 7th jan 1998 was a EF2, very strong for the UK.

The reason is that the IOW acts like a 'rock in a stream'. It is diamond shaped, and winds from the southwest can spawn eddies off the IOW, these then drifting in a northeasterly direction. Such eddies can sometimes be seen in Sc sheets on satpix downwind of islands such as Jan Mayan and the Canaries.

During unstable periods, especially rPm airmasses during the winter when cold air flows over warm ocean, Cb cells generated within the unstable airmass can ingest one or more of these vortices and stretch the vorticity into a tornado.

Coastal headlands and ranges of hills lying inland lying across the wind-flow can also generate vorticity. Imagine a bridge pontoon jutting out into a river. Water is forced to accelerate around the end of the pontoon, and then slow when downstream. Such action generates eddies, again these can be ingested into convective systems, and generate tornadoes.

N.
 
Yes, although there seem to be 2 scales of topography being discussed here. One is the broad scale regarding thunderstorm development - the topography of the Great Plains being pretty perfect for the development of severe thunderstorms and tornadoes (Rockies to the west - open access to the Gulf moisture, etc etc).

Then there is the meso- and micro-scale processes to which Nigel refers - i.e. the generation of plentiful vorticity via some local feature. This may not be important at all in the flat Plains, where mesoscale meteorological features such as thermodynamic boundaries, etc, can enhance the vorticity. But in a relatively homogeneous thermodynamic environment, mechanically generated shear and vorticity zones may well play a big role in enhancing the local vorticity and allowing tornadogenesis to occur.
 
I wanted to comment on what Mike wrote:

"1. Despite the original reference to an "inland sea breeze" being a necessary third ingredient for lift, if you look down to the footnote for the article cited, it only takes to to an abstract which doesn't even directly refer to the term "inland sea breeze", let alone define what is meant by the term, and - as far as we can tell - only refers to a singular "squall line" event of which we know nothing of its location, etc. In terms of general chasing and forecasting severe weather, I wouldn't worry too much about the sea breeze, unless your target is within about 60 miles of a coast line - and even in that case you still need powerful synoptic conditions such as instability to produce severe weather. Yes, the sea breeze can serve as a source of convergence and therefore lift in certain areas at certain times of the day, but its hardly a primary factor in forecasting severe convection."

I think the author's usage of the term "inland sea breeze" is an analogy to the sea breeze observed along the FL/Gulf coast. The "inland sea breeze" occurs over the hot well-mixed boundary layer that develops over the high plains. A difference in density develops from the hot airmass over the higher terrain when compared to that over the less mixed/more moist/cooler airmass over the lower terrain. This induces an ageostrophic response similar to the typical sea breeze...the low-level branch is directed towards the hot/less dense airmass where rising motion is observed...and the upper branch is directed toward the cooler/more moist airmass downstream (where subsidence is favored).
 
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