Oklahoma Weather Tracking Licensure Legislation

[Ken Perrin]

Curiously, Oklahoma has a clause in its constitution that prevents riders or omnibus bills—“one bill one subject”. To compensate for this nonsense, they replace bills in toto: a dog catcher bill suddenly transforms into a concealed carry bill on the floor (to give an extreme and fictitious example.)

A new name/title that bears no relation to its contents.
I grew-up in NJ, and that tends to color my view of all politicians and their methods.

 

[gdlewen]

SB158 is slated to go before the Senate Appropriations Committee next. They meet tomorrow at 1:30PM CST, but as of just now, no agenda has been posted for the meeting, so we don't know if SB158 will be heard in Appropriations, nor do we know what what the latest version in the Senate will look like.

In the Oklahoma House, Fetgatter's HB2426 has been referred to the Commerce and Economic Development Oversight Committee, which meets at 10:30AM CST today. HB2426 is not on the agenda for that committee as of 10:15AM CST.

Not sure what's up but do not assume anything is dead until the Legislature adjourns in May.

Sorry. Call me a cynic. I certainly am that.

The House Committee adjourned until 3PM and will conclude its business after that. So far Fetgatter's bill is not on the posted agenda and it looks like the bill will not complete its appointed House committee rounds by the deadline. We'll see.

 

[Warren Faidley]

SB158 is slated to go before the Senate Appropriations Committee next. They meet tomorrow at 1:30PM CST, but as of just now, no agenda has been posted for the meeting, so we don't know if SB158 will be heard in Appropriations, nor do we know what what the latest version in the Senate will look like.

In the Oklahoma House, Fetgatter's HB2426 has been referred to the Commerce and Economic Development Oversight Committee, which meets at 10:30AM CST today. HB2426 is not on the agenda for that committee as of 10:15AM CST.

Not sure what's up but do not assume anything is dead until the Legislature adjourns in May.

Sorry. Call me a cynic. I certainly am that.

Your information is extremely valuable and critical to the fight. Thanks so much. I am not dialed into the OK legislation rules from here in Arizona. I am still waiting to see the revised bill.

 

[Warren Faidley]

So if the bill is not scheduled today, it's dead? I'm hearing on X that it's scheduled, but I'm not sure the information is accurate?

 

[JamesCaruso]

Any evidence that Ryan Hall has taken a stand on this bill? I found nothing on his FB or Twitter pages. His Youtube page says he has 2.46 *million* subscribers. Divide by 50 and that's nearly 50,000 in OK. If he said the word, they'd blow up the Legislature's switchboard.

Anyone leaning on *him*?

He has spoken about it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891864017632923918

He’s going to help himself and other streamers, not recreational chasers like us…

 

[Warren Faidley]

His argument will not work. The argument is about public safety. They just don't get it. The bill is to remove chasers from the roadways, not create more emergency vehicles. He's obviously not read a single post I've made about the bill.

 

[Ken Perrin]

His argument will not work. The argument is about public safety. They just don't get it. The bill is to remove chasers from the roadways, not create more emergency vehicles. He's obviously not read a single post I've made about the bill.

Competing self-interests, instead of the actual common good.

 

[gdlewen]

SB158 is not on the OK Senate Appropriations Committee agenda for tomorrow.

Appropriations | Oklahoma Senate

oksenate.gov

Keep checking and please post if it “shows up”. Despite my my cynicism I think last minute changes are more caused by the hectic legislative schedule and less by sinister motives.

That doesn’t mean it’s not being blindsided, no matter the cause, if it shows up at the last minute.

 

[gdlewen]

Here is the House Committee agenda:

Commerce & Economic Development Oversight

Welcome to Oklahoma's House of Representatives website!

www.okhouse.gov

I see from posts above that TwitX is posting the bill is scheduled. If so I do not see where.

Here is where the bill’s next stop is given as the Commerce and Economic Development Committee:

https://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=HB2426&Session=2500

So to the best of my knowledge I am looking at the right committee to check for the bill’s appearance

 

[Dave C]

He’s going to help himself and other streamers, not recreational chasers like us…


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That is absolutely disgusting, but why am I not surprised. Most streamers make a lot of money on the backs of others as it is.

To claim that allowing more types of media to get these special rights as better serving Oklahoma is ridiculous. No one is hindering getting the word to residents now, this phony bill is not about safety, but money and control.

He wants to cash in the same way as legacy media. Normal chasers and residents are unwanted competition. Why not limit their freedom and safety on severe weather days in the name of profit? He competely ignored all the other flaws with the bill. Not a good look.

 

[Sean Ramsey]

He’s going to help himself and other streamers, not recreational chasers like us…


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LOL you could see that coming from a mile away. Legacy wants to squeeze out streamers, streamers want to get in the elevator before the door closes.

You know, at first I could see this evolving into something that could ultimately regulate chasing, and I felt like that was a bad thing. But, much like I've had to adjust my chasing style due to the number of people out there regularly these days, I may be adjusting my thought process here as well.

Maybe just let it though, let things evolve and ultimately chasing may end up getting regulated. Maybe it needs it. Doesn't matter as much to me these days, because although I'm out there almost always, I'm usually far away from the blob of dots which is where this bill is most likely to wreak havoc. All I know is there are people who chase clout and eyeballs non-stop, and if the thousands of chasers, some who have built an extremely large audience aren't going to fight (or maybe even participate in pushing it forward) then the 10 of us participating on this message board are burning up time, energy and emotion for no good reason.

This just goes to show that everyone will take care of themselves in the end, as it always is and always will be.

 

[gdlewen]

Fetgatter's HB 2426 did not come before the House Commerce and Economic Development and Oversight Committee...BUT...that committee will meet again on Thursday (announced by the chair at the end of the afternoon session). Supposedly the agenda will be posted later today.

 

[Steve Holmes]

"This isn't about safety; it's about protecting certain businesses at the expense of public access to life-saving weather information."

A strong statement, and the gist of Ryan Hall's Twitter quote. He's concerned enough to warn of the bill's dangers, but issued no call to action among his OK followers.

Politics 101: Having true power means making people believe you're willing to use it on occasion.

Any other major-league, freelance chasers or mediaologists who have spoken against this bill *and* urged their OK subscribers to do the same?

 

[Dan Robinson]

The latest:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897140396804710823

The stated purpose of the bill is to ensure public information dissemination during severe weather events. Proponents maintain that news media outlets are the primary source of such information.

Bingo. We know and have overwhelming data that this is false. I'd say this is the part that needs the hammer.

 

[Jamie H]

The operational privileges section is quite scary. Can't wait to see a hypothetical person, say called Cal Vastor, blowing through a stop sign 30 mph over the posted limit on the wrong side of the road because a fictional meteorologist, say Pavid Dayne, has called a tornado warning on a rotating severe thunderstorm. That won't be dangerous at all.