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Oklahoma Weather Tracking Licensure Legislation

He did that presentation at Chasercon. There is a video of it, but I don't see that particular one on Youtube (there are others he did though). Anyone know if that is online somewhere?
 
February 6th, 2025
The Honorable Scott Fetgatter
2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Room 455
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 73105

Dear Representative Fetgatter:

My name is Mike Thornton and I am an Emergency Manager in the 63rd District. I am contacting you today to express my opposition to House Bill 2426, otherwise known as the Emergency Weather Response and Tracking Regulatory Act of 2025. I attended Rose State College where I majored in both Atmospheric Sciences and Emergency Management and have sat on Emergency Management boards in the past in both professional and academic capacities. Additionally, I have responded to multiple natural disasters around the state and in my county and helped those disasters become declared including, but not limited to DR-4706, DR-4721, and DR-4776.

I’d like to start at H.B. 2426, 60th Leg., 1st Sess. (Okla. 2025), lines 1–24 (definition of "Significant weather event") Representative Fetgatter, this section is filled with inaccurate information and should disqualify this bill. A Broadcast Meteorologist cannot legally issue a weather watch or warning. Under Title 15, Chapter 9 of the United States Code, the National Weather Service is a governmental agency that issues watches and warnings to protect lives and property. Nowhere in the United States Code does it mention a Broadcast Meteorologist being able to issue said watches or warnings, so why is it included in this bill?

In Oklahoma House Bill 2426, 1st Session of the 60th Legislature (2025), Section 5, Subsections A(2) and B the bill states that credentialed media chasers can legally use audio and warning lights during severe weather events and can “Travel upon roads, highways, and country roads closed by the Department of Transportation, Oklahoma Turnpike Authority, any city or county, or any law enforcement agency by reason of conditions triggered by the significant weather event.” Representative Fetgatter, this is highly irresponsible. Under 63 OK Stat § 683.11, which discusses the creation of Emergency Management in Oklahoma an Emergency Manager’s primary duty during a disaster is to coordinate response efforts, ensure public safety, and manage resources to protect lives and property. This includes restricting access to hazardous areas, facilitating emergency services, and preventing unnecessary risks to both responders and the public. A bill allowing media chasers into disaster zones contradicts these responsibilities by introducing untrained individuals into dangerous conditions, creating potential obstacles for emergency personnel and increasing the risk of additional casualties. Controlled access is critical to maintaining order and ensuring that life-saving operations are conducted efficiently.

According to the National Safety Council, the crash rate for emergency vehicles when responding to emergency calls without lights and sirens is 4.6 per 100,000 responses. When lights and sirens are used, the crash rate increases to 5.5 per 100,000 responses. Another study published by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration analyzing data from 2013 to 2018 found that 28% of fatal ambulance crashes occurred while lights and sirens were active. An analysis from the CDC of police vehicle crashes from 2005 to 2013 found that Law Enforcement Officers using their lights and sirens—were 1.3 times more likely to be involved in crashes compared to non-emergency driving. Representative Fetgatter, knowing these statistics, why would you knowingly allow inexperienced media chasers the ability to utilize warning lights and sirens?

Representative Fetgatter, I want you to imagine that a disaster occurred in the 16th District. Now imagine your residents being impacted by that disaster and they see vehicles with sirens and warning lights coming towards them. They’re going to think that it’s a public safety official who may be able to aid them. However, it turns out to be a media chaser who is there only to document damage for their respective TV Station. How do you think your citizens will feel about that? Over the past decade, I have witnessed this exact scenario, where a disaster happens and media chasers do not offer help, but rather they just sit by and document damage, often getting in the way of first responders. Under no circumstances, should those who have a history of driving dangerously be allowed to further their recklessness by being given equipment that mimics first responders and public safety officials and under no circumstances should these same media chasers be given the title of “emergency responder.”

Storm chasing is not and should not be considered an emergency responder position as storm chasing allows those who love weather the ability to document nature’s fury as a hobby, not respond to disasters.

I want to end my letter of opposition with some statistics. I am a storm chaser myself and I have chased storms for well over a decade. Since 1984, there have been 15 storm chasing-related fatalities, with only five of those being related to storms. It should be noted that between 1984 and 2005, only two fatalities occurred, both being vehicular accidents. However, since 2010, we have seen a significant increase in vehicle-related accidents and fatalities in the storm chasing community as the result of reckless drivers who knowingly blew stop signs and red lights or were distracted by their cell phone, radio, and or computer which led to an accident. I have known chasers who died and even caused serious accidents from these inattentive behaviors. Can you imagine if national news media picked up on an accident that was caused by a storm chaser being reckless and then they find out that those same chasers were using sirens and warning lights? You are opening yourself to vicarious liability.

I want to thank you for serving the people of Oklahoma and I truly hope that you will consider my opposition letter. I hope to hear from your office.

Thank you,
Michael Thornton
 
The big problem I see is that many, if not most, of the general public already thinks that TV chasers deserve the emergency responder status. Half the comments on those pointing out the dangerous behavior/posting examples of it are people saying that it's justified and that the person posting should have gotten out of the way/drove faster/stop criticizing the "life savers". So posting the videos of red light running/passing on double yellows/speeding will just get one lambasted by the public saying that the behavior is "good" because it's in the name of "saving lives".

As false as we all know it is, the general public - including these lawmakers - have 100% bought into the Hollywood narrative that certain chasers are "life savers" and the rest of us are just amateurs in the way.

I think that is the underlying battle, dispelling that myth. Maybe someone can find the Doswell presentation on chase safety from Chasercon many years back?
Dan, are you referring to Chuck's February 2014 presentation post the Samaras/Young deaths at the Denver Chasercon in 2014? If so, I have the raw front row video of that day archived and in time can post it. Some of it is featured in this promo. I'm referring to Chuck's presentation where he called out the overall idiocracy that had become "storm chasers" of which included media, reality television "stars" and the like.

If so, here is a wide view version of Chuck's presentation recorded by another individual, whereas I had a front row seat while recording video for what was to become the Storm Chasing Anthology V1. Otherwise, I would gather you might be referring to some other presentation, as Chuck presented many such talks beyond the Denver conventions over the years.

Best,

Blake


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I would also suggest including the ST URL link for this thread directly in any correspondence sent to an OK politician. That way, each politician can read for himself/herself the excellent discussions (feedback, push-back) about this legislation before they vote on it.
You're ST title should reflect your actual status to this forum, original co-founder, Randy. ;) But enthusiast fits the bill these days.

Blake
 
February 6th, 2025
The Honorable Scott Fetgatter
2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Room 455
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 73105

Dear Representative Fetgatter:

My name is Mike Thornton and I am an Emergency Manager in the 63rd District. I am contacting you today to express my opposition to House Bill 2426, otherwise known as the Emergency Weather Response and Tracking Regulatory Act of 2025. I attended Rose State College where I majored in both Atmospheric Sciences and Emergency Management and have sat on Emergency Management boards in the past in both professional and academic capacities. Additionally, I have responded to multiple natural disasters around the state and in my county and helped those disasters become declared including, but not limited to DR-4706, DR-4721, and DR-4776.

I’d like to start at H.B. 2426, 60th Leg., 1st Sess. (Okla. 2025), lines 1–24 (definition of "Significant weather event") Representative Fetgatter, this section is filled with inaccurate information and should disqualify this bill. A Broadcast Meteorologist cannot legally issue a weather watch or warning. Under Title 15, Chapter 9 of the United States Code, the National Weather Service is a governmental agency that issues watches and warnings to protect lives and property. Nowhere in the United States Code does it mention a Broadcast Meteorologist being able to issue said watches or warnings, so why is it included in this bill?

In Oklahoma House Bill 2426, 1st Session of the 60th Legislature (2025), Section 5, Subsections A(2) and B the bill states that credentialed media chasers can legally use audio and warning lights during severe weather events and can “Travel upon roads, highways, and country roads closed by the Department of Transportation, Oklahoma Turnpike Authority, any city or county, or any law enforcement agency by reason of conditions triggered by the significant weather event.” Representative Fetgatter, this is highly irresponsible. Under 63 OK Stat § 683.11, which discusses the creation of Emergency Management in Oklahoma an Emergency Manager’s primary duty during a disaster is to coordinate response efforts, ensure public safety, and manage resources to protect lives and property. This includes restricting access to hazardous areas, facilitating emergency services, and preventing unnecessary risks to both responders and the public. A bill allowing media chasers into disaster zones contradicts these responsibilities by introducing untrained individuals into dangerous conditions, creating potential obstacles for emergency personnel and increasing the risk of additional casualties. Controlled access is critical to maintaining order and ensuring that life-saving operations are conducted efficiently.

According to the National Safety Council, the crash rate for emergency vehicles when responding to emergency calls without lights and sirens is 4.6 per 100,000 responses. When lights and sirens are used, the crash rate increases to 5.5 per 100,000 responses. Another study published by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration analyzing data from 2013 to 2018 found that 28% of fatal ambulance crashes occurred while lights and sirens were active. An analysis from the CDC of police vehicle crashes from 2005 to 2013 found that Law Enforcement Officers using their lights and sirens—were 1.3 times more likely to be involved in crashes compared to non-emergency driving. Representative Fetgatter, knowing these statistics, why would you knowingly allow inexperienced media chasers the ability to utilize warning lights and sirens?

Representative Fetgatter, I want you to imagine that a disaster occurred in the 16th District. Now imagine your residents being impacted by that disaster and they see vehicles with sirens and warning lights coming towards them. They’re going to think that it’s a public safety official who may be able to aid them. However, it turns out to be a media chaser who is there only to document damage for their respective TV Station. How do you think your citizens will feel about that? Over the past decade, I have witnessed this exact scenario, where a disaster happens and media chasers do not offer help, but rather they just sit by and document damage, often getting in the way of first responders. Under no circumstances, should those who have a history of driving dangerously be allowed to further their recklessness by being given equipment that mimics first responders and public safety officials and under no circumstances should these same media chasers be given the title of “emergency responder.”

Storm chasing is not and should not be considered an emergency responder position as storm chasing allows those who love weather the ability to document nature’s fury as a hobby, not respond to disasters.

I want to end my letter of opposition with some statistics. I am a storm chaser myself and I have chased storms for well over a decade. Since 1984, there have been 15 storm chasing-related fatalities, with only five of those being related to storms. It should be noted that between 1984 and 2005, only two fatalities occurred, both being vehicular accidents. However, since 2010, we have seen a significant increase in vehicle-related accidents and fatalities in the storm chasing community as the result of reckless drivers who knowingly blew stop signs and red lights or were distracted by their cell phone, radio, and or computer which led to an accident. I have known chasers who died and even caused serious accidents from these inattentive behaviors. Can you imagine if national news media picked up on an accident that was caused by a storm chaser being reckless and then they find out that those same chasers were using sirens and warning lights? You are opening yourself to vicarious liability.

I want to thank you for serving the people of Oklahoma and I truly hope that you will consider my opposition letter. I hope to hear from your office.

Thank you,
Michael Thornton

Extremely well done. No matter what the outcome, you can always look back proud and know you did something very positive.
 
People asking what they can do? I'm seeing more and more video posts favoring the bill. I suspect this is because those individuals have access to professional TV production staff and writers. We could really use a few really good productions outlining the horrors of this bill. Interestingly, I've been told some stations are promising those who actively engage in promoting the bill could be offered news station spotting jobs in the future, along with code-3 licenses. There are no limitations on how many code-3 units a station can deploy, something else to ponder given the competitive nature of news stations.
 
An update from the Emergency Management side of things.... So, today I submitted my letter to Scott Fetgatter.

After doing so, I was discussing the subject with some Emergency Management colleagues and one had talked to his senator about this issue and the other was actually going to have a sit down meeting with Fetgatter on this subject TOMORROW. That said, there are many EMs that are opposed to this bill due to the affects it could have on public safety. My next Oklahoma Emergency Management Association meeting is next week in Durant, Oklahoma, and I am going to discuss this bill with the board and our legislative committee team lead in an effort to get them to look into it further and create more buzz.

Additionally, when I was discussing this with one of my deputies earlier today, he was highly against storm chasers being able to use warning lights and sirens, but EXTREMELY against them being able to go around his barricades. The Sheriff's that know about this bill are also opposed.

I'll keep pushing hard on my end.
 
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