Danny Neal
EF5
FWIW I did a search for this topic and came up empty on the specifics of what I want to discuss. This in a way has to do with the basis of the Tri-State tornado findings but not particularly that tornado.... if that makes sense.
We all have heard of the study that Doswell did a few years ago and presented the fact that this tornado was a single tornado that traveled from MO to IN. ---- http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11496
John J. Holt just put a thread in the B & G of the Woodward tornado traveling on the ground for 221 miles.
Plus numerous others back in the 50's-60's-70's. I was wondering what the frequencies of long track tornadoes nowadays was to days back a half century ago. I did a quick Google search and uncovered this paper.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/publications/mccarthy/tor30yrs.pdf
This may have been covered in many separate threads briefly, but never had its own IIRC. Can we say that many of these tornadoes of the past half century (before accurate surveys) were actual families of tornadoes?
I.E Blackwell, Woodward
Figure 5a: Plot of long-track tornadoes between
1950 and 1969 with path lengths greater than 185
km (100 mi.) - Specifically this is what I want to focus on.
As opposed to
Figure 5b: Plot of long-track tornadoes between
1970 and 2002 with path lengths greater than 185
km (100 mi.)
IIRC the F-scale was not implemented until 1971, but Fujita was doing undocumented surveys back years before that? I am wondering how in depth these surveys were? Is it possible that many of these long track tornadoes were just pieced together through towns/structures damaged with inconsistencies or were they actually documented to have such tracks. In those 19 years there were TEN more long track tornadoes than there were in the years 1970-2002.
Active pattern? Or was it just inconsistencies? The easy answer is saying it is too hard to uncover the answer of whether the Woodward 221 mile tornado was more than one. I suppose I pose the question of.... are these older tornadoes plausible or is there any evidence ANYWHERE supporting otherwise. I believe the most logical answer is that as surveys were developed the number of tornadoes increased and the number of long track tornadoes decreased.... what do ya think???
Are there any specific tornadoes that you may question or feel skeptical about?
I just find it odd that in a period of 20 years there are 10 more long track (over 100 mile) tornadoes than there were in the next 32 years.
We all have heard of the study that Doswell did a few years ago and presented the fact that this tornado was a single tornado that traveled from MO to IN. ---- http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11496
John J. Holt just put a thread in the B & G of the Woodward tornado traveling on the ground for 221 miles.
Plus numerous others back in the 50's-60's-70's. I was wondering what the frequencies of long track tornadoes nowadays was to days back a half century ago. I did a quick Google search and uncovered this paper.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/publications/mccarthy/tor30yrs.pdf
This may have been covered in many separate threads briefly, but never had its own IIRC. Can we say that many of these tornadoes of the past half century (before accurate surveys) were actual families of tornadoes?
I.E Blackwell, Woodward
Figure 5a: Plot of long-track tornadoes between
1950 and 1969 with path lengths greater than 185
km (100 mi.) - Specifically this is what I want to focus on.
As opposed to
Figure 5b: Plot of long-track tornadoes between
1970 and 2002 with path lengths greater than 185
km (100 mi.)
IIRC the F-scale was not implemented until 1971, but Fujita was doing undocumented surveys back years before that? I am wondering how in depth these surveys were? Is it possible that many of these long track tornadoes were just pieced together through towns/structures damaged with inconsistencies or were they actually documented to have such tracks. In those 19 years there were TEN more long track tornadoes than there were in the years 1970-2002.
Active pattern? Or was it just inconsistencies? The easy answer is saying it is too hard to uncover the answer of whether the Woodward 221 mile tornado was more than one. I suppose I pose the question of.... are these older tornadoes plausible or is there any evidence ANYWHERE supporting otherwise. I believe the most logical answer is that as surveys were developed the number of tornadoes increased and the number of long track tornadoes decreased.... what do ya think???
Are there any specific tornadoes that you may question or feel skeptical about?
I just find it odd that in a period of 20 years there are 10 more long track (over 100 mile) tornadoes than there were in the next 32 years.
