Chris Hayes
EF5
Chance, last winter in NE Ohio was both cool and it sucked. The Feb 5-6 storm was awesome but I could go without it again
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Chance Metz
EF2
True but where I lived we seemed to have more snow then most areas. Had more then one storm with over a foot as well.
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I personally know two NWS employees who have spent time on the body-building circuit. I'm sure either of them could give Joe a run for his money...There is certaintly no other meterologist with as big of biceps as his!
Chance Metz
EF2
Let's have a NWS strongman contest. lol.
Andrew Ryan
EF3
I personally know two NWS employees who have spent time on the body-building circuit. I'm sure either of them could give Joe a run for his money...
That gives new meaning to "strong upper level forcing" (yeah, I know that doesn't make any sense, but whatever).
Chance Metz
EF2
It means you lift something heavy high above your head.
NickSeyour
EF1
ridiculus
IMO it's ridiculus to release a winter forecast around the same time we're still working with the hurricane season.
IMO it's ridiculus to release a winter forecast around the same time we're still working with the hurricane season.
rdale
EF5
Why? Do you see a connection between number of hurricanes and winter's severity?
jdrenken
EF0
IMO it's ridiculus to release a winter forecast around the same time we're still working with the hurricane season.
The same forecasting of El Nino and La Nina with hurricane season has a direct effect on the winter. For instance, in the Midwest/Mid-Mississippi Valley we have a history of above average precipitation during La Nina years.
Chance Metz
EF2
Bascially El Nino and La Nino are not really factored into the forcast. And we all know it can change form one to the other and make your forcast a joke.
jdrenken
EF0
You can't argue with historical reference of El Nino and La Nina when it comes to how it affects various regions of the country.
EDIT: The only variable that might be into play is if the La Nina moderates or goes neutral. So far...no signs of that happening.
rdale
EF5
Maybe not into your forecast - but anyone making a seasonal outlook without considering El Nino / La Nina is at a disadvantage right off the bat!
Chance Metz
EF2
Which is why I do not really belive accuweather weather's winter forcast. Plus they are practically at war with the NWS.
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jdrenken
EF0
The NWS CPC arm has experts dedicated towards the forecasting of El Nino and La Nina events and just issued their outlook as of 05AUG10. This has nothing to do with Accuweather's forecast or NWS official forecast. If you look at the hurricane forecast every expert...including the NWS...was looking at a higher than normal season. The CPC utilizes the said El Nino and La Nina forecast to come up with their results here...looks pretty close to Joe B's to me.
Here is a graph provided by the said arm with Cincinnati, OH as one of the select cities. It shows that during 'neutral' years, you and I will actually fair better.
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rdale
EF5
How is their long range forec... oh... nevermind...
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