Greenburg tornado anniversary 5/4

Ouch Dick..... LOL

Who is shoving things down your throat? Do you live in Greensburg, KS? Did you not watch the show last night...where's the false info at? This was a decision made by the residents of Greensburg.

You know I don't live in Greensburg Dick. This part of the statement was more of a generalization of how some so called green ideas are not so great and or are unproven theories and are showed down our throats. Kinda like MTBE, it was supposed to help reduce pollution from fuel consumption and in the end has poisoned numerous water supplies. This was a "green" effort when it started.

Where are you getting this from? No one has ever shoved anything down anyone's throats, like I said up above, it was a community decision to do so. The residents are excited about setting an example for the entire world in which future communities will be built. Being a resident of Kansas yourself, you should also be proud that your state will be setting the standards for maximizing available resources to save energy and money, while reducing harm to our planet.

I am proud of no state or government that imposes such restrictions on its people that they have to leave their homes (or home town) to survive. If Kansas wants to impress me then they will block the new coal plants from being built.....

It is working, and will continue to work. No one is telling anyone anything, this is a tight-knit, strong-willed community that refuses to let Mother Nature's wrath stop them from continuing on with their lives.

Its not natures wrath that is breaking them. If they are having to leave their own home town because in order to rebuild they must build to a new green standard that they cannot afford then it is green politics that are breaking them.

Much of the things you stated in both posts hold no substance and are only opinions you share with very few. Until you talk with different residents, take a stroll through town, and develop a better understanding of what's really going on, you'll undoubtedly continue to think the same things. Things definitely won't be easy and haven't been, but the residents who have stayed are determined to rebuild their community and eventually their lives will return to normal.

Did everyone agree to rebuild green knowing full well the extraordinary cost that would be involved beforehand?

BTW, Greensburg Greentown has a campaign, "One million, $5.00 donations" up on their website here. For a little more than a gallon of gas, people can help the residents out with much needed financial assistance.

From their website it looks like it will mostly fund government buildings and schools. How will this help the residents who will have to leave because they cannot afford to rebuild according to the new green rules?

I am more of a people orientated person and not so much for excessive or unneeded government regulations and rules. I could care less if you burn an American flag or step on it, if you however decide to try to burn an American or step on them you will get me riled up. Does that make sense? ;)

If indeed people are having to leave the town and move elsewhere because they cannot even afford to rebuild their homes due to the extreme cost of "green" regulations then that is a serious problem for me. That is wrong in my book. If you want to start making things green for the future thats fine too. Just make it known and set your regulations for future development. These people are in a unique situation, they are not moving somewhere new with green regulations and trying to build non "green" They are trying to rebuild their homes.

I haven't been to Greensburg and talked to the people, some of you have. You have made great efforts to help people there and that is appreciated and respected. Am I misinformed about people having to leave because they cannot afford to rebuild under the yoke of new "green" regulations? I hope so, if not then maybe you could talk to some of them for their view on the situation....
 
But don't you think the proper response would be to re-assess how we view disasters and to move away from this individualistic, every-person-for-themselves, mind set?

If we are willing to go that route yes indeed, but what seems to be more common is grab one situation and run with it while ignoring many other bad or worse situations. Thats also part of my problem, the individual is usually ignored for a media circus event. Sadly even the masses are often ignored unless there is some kind of media event following it.
 
Still no facts....:rolleyes:

Did you read the article posted before I replied. Construction costs drive more residents from Greensburg

Half the town's 1,400 people have left, many because their $30,000 to $80,000 homes would cost $100,000 to $200,000 to rebuild. They left even though FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, provided $69 million in aid, even though insurance companies paid $153 million in claims.

Many people in Greensburg work for $10 to $12 an hour, good wages here. But they can't afford $150,000 homes.

I don't have time right now for more but Google might help you to locate more.
 
Did you read the article posted before I replied.

Judging from the age of the homes looking to be replaced, it does not surprise me at all that it would be $200k to replace a $75k house. The article talked about how contractors must charge more as nothing can be locally sourced, including the workers. Going green usually adds about 5% to 12% onto the cost of a house, which you recoup in about 5-10 years and then it starts MAKING you money. The town going green is not what is causing people to not be able to come back. It's inflation and the difficulty in having a 'replacement cost' insurance policy vs. a 'investment cost' policy. The article talks about many of the people being insured for what it cost them to build the house the first time around, which simply won't cut it now, that's just an economic issue.

-John
 
Jim, John has already responded for me. The article mentions nothing about higher costs being related to the 'going green' idea. I dont know if its a bad idea or not, but if you use provocative phrases like "green freaks" and "shoving down the throats" then i believe you should at least back up your claims.
 
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