Delorme LT (USB) & Windows 7 (64 Bit)?

[cdcollura]

Good day all,

I think there is a separate thread on this but I am not sure (Mods, you can move / merge this one if necessary).

I have a new Windows 7 (64 Bit) notebook and just about every program I got works flawlessly (even the ones that did not in the "Vista nightmare" last year).

I have Delorme Street Atlas 2009 with the LT-40 USB puck. The system works fine with GPS and such. The serial emulator does not, it won't install and tells me "you cannot use this with a 64 bit OS".

I checked Delorme's site, and I only see the 32 bit version (it even says "not for use with 64 bit Windows" on the download driver page for the serial emulator).

Any thoughts?

Yes, I checked GPS Gate, but that does not seem to have anything for Delorme USB pucks (just Garmin and such).

This was the ONLY snag I had with Win 7, which pretty much affects the use of GRLevel3 with GPS (I cannot use the serial emulator).

 

[Chris Strahan]

gps gate works with delorme products. Now, saying that, I have not tested it out on a 64 bit system.....

 

[Tony Laubach]

The lack of use with a 64bit OS lead me to GPS gate. I ended up getting it plus a GlobalSat GPS puck which works flawlessly with Vista 64 and according to the forums, Windows 7 as well.

I searched extensively for a Delorme fix with 64bit OS and couldn't find anything of use. I eventually gave up and went the GPSGate route. If you trip across something, please pass it along!

 

[cdcollura]

Good day all,

I tried downloading GPS Gate and I see no way to get it to work with Delorme ...

Are you sure this works with Delorme? If so what settings do you use?

I have to be missing something?

 

[Jeff Duda]

I've recently had manyp roblems with the LT-40 puck and Delorme as well. In fact, I can't even get my laptop to recognize my puck. I think drivers are missing, but they did not come with the Street Atlas 2009 software.

 

[cdcollura]

Good day all...

Well, I guess (again) I have to do 2 things: Buy a Garmin puck (to use GPS Gate) or a Bluetooth Delorme and (hope and pray GPS Gate recognizes that). Both are more $$, the prices of upgrading.

Or wait until Delorme supports 64 bit OS (MOST laptops use that now, so I am suprised they did not do this yet)!

Or wait until GPS Gate puts "Delorme USB" in one of their choices (that's probably a wish-cast).

April-May 2010 is the deadline, so I'll wait.

 

[Mark Blue]

Chris,

This post on the Franson support forum provides details on what you need to do if you have a 64 bit system:

http://www.franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8252

I also have a priority code I could send you through a PM if you are interested that I received from Delorme a couple of days ago via e-mail, so you can get a discount on the BT-20 puck (let me know). I've been using my BT-20 for three years and it works beautifully together with Street Atlas and GPSGate. I'm on 32 bit Vista Ultimate, but I think with the driver link above it just might solve your issue.

The USB version (LT-40) has known issues with GPSGate per this post:

http://www.franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7763&SearchTerms=Delorme

Since the serial emulator won't work on 64 bit systems you are SOL as far as I know with your current configuration. Another thread that sheds quite a bit of light on this subject can be found here:

http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19520

Just let me know if you want to buy the BT-20 and I'll PM you the discount code.

 

[Brian Emfinger]

I ran across this problem as well. Delorme says they arent considering upgrading to allow win 7 64 bit to work with their emulator. I had a Globalsat BU-353 recommended to me and it works great. It installed fine but I did have to copy a file into windows/system 32 to get gpsgate to work (gpsgate said to do it). It actually is so much better not having to deal with that stupid delorme emulator. I have gps gate running in the background and within just a few seconds of plugging in the gps its working (without doing anything more than plugging it in!).

 

[Randy Denzer]

Has anyone checked to see if the Delorme serial emulator will work with the 32 bit windows 7? how about Threat net?

I am getting ready to install windows 7 and for the upcoming season but worry about compatibility!

My XP still works!

 

[cdcollura]

Good day all,

Thanks Mark very much...

I just ordered the blue-tooth version of Delorme and SA 2010 and start with that. I have bluetooth on my laptop and know that's working.

I'll run it with GPS gate and I still have my old LT-40 for my netbook as a back-up, which uses XP Pro 32 and runs fine for both Delorme and GRLevelX.

Hopefully I'll be up and running soon...

Thanks guys!

 

[cdcollura]

Good day all,

Hopefully I'll be up and running soon...

I got everything working on my new Laptop (thanks again, Mark)!

1). Got tiny blue-tooth USB and configured it. It's so small that I'll just leave it in the USB port. I also got a BT mouse, and it works great too.

2). Installed the Delorme SA 2010, and configured the BT-20 puck / chanrged it. The BT recognized it right away, and assigned COM40 to it.

3). I found out that by changing the existing RIM com ports 3-4 to 18 and 19, and re-acquiring the BT-20 and using COM4 instead of COM40, GrlevelX can connect to it using COM4 ... Without using GPSGate!

4). The GPSGate comes into play when you want to use the SAME BT-20 puck for Delorme AND GRLevelX.

5). I installed GPSGate (with the copy the file C:\Program Files (x86)\Franson\GpsGate 2.0\x64\bizVSerialNT.sys to C:\Windows\System32\Drivers).

6). In GPSGate settings, ZI select the COM4 as the input, and COM1 and COM2 as the outputs, one to GRLevelX and the other to Delorme ... Works great.

BTW ... What are these "RIM" com ports that use the lower 3 and 4 ports? I always wind up changing them to higher port numbers, as GRLevelX only recognizes COM 1-16 (I think). Something to consider.

Thanks again, and I hope others can benefit from this as well ... Many thanks to Mark B as well.

 

[Mark Blue]

Hey Cris,

I'm so glad to hear this as I always worry when I tell someone to buy something other than what they already own, then the new equipment won't work either (wiping sweat from forehead!). The way you described your setup is exactly how it should go. Your Bluetooth software stack picks up the signal from the BT-20 on COM Port 40 and from there GPSGate picks it up and splits it out into several virtual output COM ports.

The RIM ports I believe are for Blackberry phones, since RIM is the company Research in Motion. I actually went into device manager and disabled those ports (as did Stephen Locke IIRC when I helped him), so they would become available after rebooting to GPSGate and then GRL3, since GRL3 uses ports in the lower range of numbers. You can essentially play around with it until you get your configuration just right by rerunning the setup wizard or manually creating output ports in GPSGate. The comment about connecting your USB cable is also what I do to charge it back up later in the day and it doesn't affect your signal.

Here's another tip for you. I found the exact battery that the BT-20 uses on this website called Mouser Electronics at a much cheaper price than what Delorme sells them for. I bought two spares and keep them charged up during chase season. It looks as though that battery is now listed as obsolete on the Mouser website though so I'm glad I bought two back then. I'd pull the battery out of the BT-20 and put the part number in Google to see if they are using a different battery now. The old part number was a Varta battery with these numbers on the back: 66352711099 VARTA. It isn't necessary but it's definitely a nice to have.

Thanks,
Mark

 

[Wes Carter]

Has anyone checked to see if the Delorme serial emulator will work with the 32 bit windows 7? how about Threat net?

I am getting ready to install windows 7 and for the upcoming season but worry about compatibility!

My XP still works!

Randy, the DeLorme Serial Emulator does work with 32-bit Windows 7. I have used that configuration with no more problems than I had with Vista. The DeLorme Serial Emulator seemed to create many headaches trying to get it and Franson to talk to one another.

I bought a Globalsat BU-353 to eliminate the extra piece of software (DeLorme Serial Emulator) that always seemed to be a problem with XP, Vista, and 7. I found another one that works just as well It's the Microsoft rebranded puck, the Pharos USB GPS with the SIRF III chip, the same one the Globalsat uses. I started another thread about it because I found a good deal in it for $23.

 

[Gerard Jebaily]

I myself have had a Delorme GPS receiver that came with Delorme Street Atlas 2003. I upgraded to the new Delorme 2010 on a Windows 7 64 bit system. Now i see that Delorme Serial Emulator will not work on 64 bit systems. I'm trying to get Spotter Network and GRLevelX to gather the GPS data. Is there some other software out there that will work with windows 7 64 bit or will i need to buy another GPS receiver? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

 

[Dave Chapman]

Has anyone checked to see if the Delorme serial emulator will work with the 32 bit windows 7? how about Threat net?

I am getting ready to install windows 7 and for the upcoming season but worry about compatibility!

I couldn't get the Delorme serial emulator to work with 32-bit Windows 7 Pro and the BT-20. Also had lots of problems with maintaining the Bluetooth connection (which worked fine with Windows XP).

Finally switched to a Globalsat BU-353 and the latest USB-to-Serial driver available on their web site. My system now: BU-353, GpsGate, Street Atlas 2010 and ThreatNet. I did have to manually assign COM port numbers to avoid conflicts but everything works great now, and much faster than bluetooth.