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3/6 - 3/7 FCST (Winter Storm): OK, TX, AR

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I am really surprised this hasn't already been posted, but it seems that all models are coming into agreement for a not atypical early March snowstorm for central, south central, and eastern Oklahoma down into far North Texas and northeast into Arkansas.

Conservative estimates are anywhere form 4-8 inches but some estimates are upwards of 16 inches.

Here are a few 12z maps to peruse:

12Z NCEP ETA:
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_ETA212_SFC_ACCUM-SNOWFALL_60HR.gif
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_ETA212_SFC_ACCUMSNOWFALL-KUCHERA_60HR.gif

12Z NAM:
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212-PARA_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW-KUCHERA_60HR.gif

12Z GFS:
http://204.2.104.196/gfs/WINTER_GFS0P5_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW_54HR.gif

0Z GFS:
http://wxcaster4.com/gfs/CONUS2_GFS0P5_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW_60HR.gif
 
Enhanced OUN web page does have a graphic up mentioning "heavy snow," but glancing at the AFD, it appears the same fly-in-the-ointment is as typical for Oklahoma... the TEMPERATURES. Not sure how that will verify with high temps forecast in the mid 40s as of now.

Personally, I can wish for two feet of snow all I want (I would love it!), but if this storm is typical of Oklahoma winter storms, we'll be lucky to see an inch of snow! (sigh)
 
I share Billy's reluctance to believe after the past few years, but I have to admit, I can't recall the two U.S. models agreeing on significant accumulations from this close to the event (30-42 hours) before now in my three winters here. Still, forecasts for winter events are often extremely dynamic around here, with the eventual outcome completely different than expected from even the short-range. I'm guessing we'll see a narrow swath of significant snows tomorrow somewhere in the OUN CWA into the TSA CWA, but probably not the apocalypse scenario depicted on the 12z NAM.
 
The NAM/WRF has been absolutely dreadful all winter...you pretty much know what's NOT going to happen after looking at it. It's reached a new level today though with its 30+ inches of snow accumulation in parts of SE OK.

The NAM/GFS/NGM all show significant snow as far north as TUL/OKC, but the ECMWF/UKMET/Canadian do not. The non-U.S. models are normally best in this part of the country, so I'll be surprised if heavy snow makes it as far north as I-44 in central and NE OK.

Surface temps will initially be warm, but significant precipitation will result in evaporational cooling, so expect T/Td of 33/32 or 32/32 under the heavy precip Thursday afternoon. It will be warmest before the precip occurs and also north of the precip in NRN OK. Highs in the 40s look OK to me for this reason.

Parts of far SE OK will see more rain initially so snow amounts may taper off in Choctaw/McCurtain counties due to this reason...close call there though. If it changes over quick enough, this is the area that could see 10+ inches.
 
I've been watching this, and am hoping for it to track further north than models show right now.

I would love to get a decent snow here in Stillwater. All winter long we have been forcasted for 6+ inches several times... along with a couple icestorms....

Nothing has verified at all. I think we have seen 2 inches @ most of snow... The forecasting has been terrible in OK for winter storms this year... sucks.
 
Just got off the phone with Alex Lamers who works with OUN and basically what this comes down to is 10miles. If you recall there was a significant snow event forecasted 2-3 days out last winter for the OKC metro area (cant remember if it was Jan or Feb) and everyone busted (OUN to TV) b/c the snow was about 20miles west of forecasted leaving Edmond/OKC/Norman with cold rain. Everyone was pissed. A potential repeat is possible but this time I cant blame OUN since I know how tough forecasting snow can be, esp when theres a sharp gradient forecasted. It all comes down to the track of the low. This one is going to be hella close for Norman.
 
On a side note, the NWS in North Little Rock, AR is hinting at "thundersnow". A tidbit from the winter storm watch wording:
Code:
FOUR TO EIGHT INCHES OF SNOW COULD OCCUR IN THE WATCH AREA.
THERE IS A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...AND THIS WOULD ENHANCE
SNOWFALL RATES IN SOME SPOTS. GIVEN THIS...LOCALLY UP TO A FOOT
OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE.

THE WATCH INCLUDES AREAS NORTH OF MURFREESBORO...LITTLE ROCK AND
AUGUSTA.
I live in White County, AR so all of this will be interesting to watch as the situation
develops. I'm thinking that NW AR will get the lion's share. I might get 5 to 6 in. I don't forsee
the roads getting too bad since it was up to almost 60 today and will be in the 40's tomorrow
before the white stuff starts falling. That will happen tomorrow night after I get in from
work or shortly before.
 
00Z WRF/NAM and 00Z NGM both trending south...not that those models mean much, but it is a trend towards the normally reliable models. Don't really see any way Norman or Tulsa get 4+ inches of snow. 4 flakes is much more likely than 4 inches. McAlester into Nrn. AR is the place to be for heavy snow.
 
At least OUN is finally realizing that this WILL NOT happen for the OKC metro area. Going to be SE Oklahoma, and a major winter storm for Arkansas and points northeast.

Winter Storm Warning has been cancelled, as well, for the OKC metro.

Alas, the "Norman Bubble" wins again. (sigh, cry)
 
NWS here in Fort Worth, TX has now issued a WSW for the Dallas Metroplex. Expecting now 2-5 inches north of I-20, and up to six inches near the Red River. This is just nuts for March! Should'nt we be talking about severe weather, not winter storms in texas!?!?!......;)
 
blah of course. After many storms tracking north of the OK central area.... finally ones comes further south... and its TOO far south...

I think the Norman bubble needs to be upgraded to the 'All of central OK' bubble.
 
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