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W. Grant Dade
EF2
According to this 335 people lost their lives in the Super Outbreak. Seems there are lots of differnet death totals out there for that event. If you are interested I have a few thoughts on how we the Media, yes I said we even though I try to make them state the facts, continues to get the tornado count wrong here. To all of you that chased this event and gave valuable life saving information, thank you!
David Yoho
EF1
So, what do you say for the people who sought shelter after hearing the sirens, but were still killed? At what point do you say that an event of this magnitude will kill people no matter how much advanced warning is given? Do you say that the govt. needs to provide everyone with a shelter below ground for situations where the tornadoes are so violent?
The important question is how many lives were saved because of the warning systems, the advanced SPC forecasts, radar and the spotters on the ground? I would imagine that number is large, but obviously there is no way to know. Just my 2 cents...
Rob H
EF5
That's probably accurate for the 0-3km EHI:
I stepped through the detailed sector view and saw EHIs of 15 at least, but it was hard to see more than that because the gradients were so tight.
Warren Faidley
Supporter
Fox News is reporting that the Smithville, MS tornado has been upgraded by the NWS to an EF5. Unless, I've missed something, this would be the first official EF-5 from the event?
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John Peters
EF3
Well, we have at least one EF-5
Edit: sorry Warren for the re-post
Edit: sorry Warren for the re-post
Will Campbell
EF2
You got it. Earlier post touched on this as well. First for the even, first since Parkersburg, IA. Obviously we will have to wait for NWS surveys, but I'm sure it won't be the only one
STurner
EF2
Looking at the aerials the Smithville, MS tornado reminds me of the Parkersburg, IA tornado. Also when you read the damage descriptions from NWS in Huntsville, the tornado that hit the Tanner, AL area sounds like it too and possibly another tornado in their jurisdiction. The Tuscaloosa tornado damage looks really possible as well.
Zack Hargrove
EF2
I'm hearing that there is debate going on between forecasters and tornado expert Greg Stumpf at Peachtree City on whether or not the Catoosa County, Georgia tornado should be upgraded to an EF5.
Kevin Walters
EF2
How many times has any outbreak produced more than one F/EF 5 tornado? The super outbreak 4/3/1974, Kansas 3/13/1990, Iowa 5/15/1968 come to mind. I'm sure there are others.
Michael Riedl
EF2
From what I have heard about the damage this conversation should be taking place.
Mike Johnston
EF5
Blackwell, OK and Udall, KS 5/25/55 - probably the same tornado, though
Where have you seen aerial photos of the damage in Smithville?
You can find the answer pretty easily here.
Kevin Walters
EF2
Actually I was wondering if others could come up with examples without looing it up, but thanks.
Zack Hargrove
EF2
I want to make clear that this is not confirmed, but from a friend of mine who I trust completely. If I didn't trust her, I would not be posting this:
I have an EMA friend up here in Asheville and some of them got called down into Tuscaloosa for extra help. Her team found a car flipped with "4 kids and a ton of video equipment." It is their belief that these kids were amateur storm chasers. She said the car was so unrecognizable that for a few minutes she was panicked that it was us, but then she remembered we were already back home.
I have an EMA friend up here in Asheville and some of them got called down into Tuscaloosa for extra help. Her team found a car flipped with "4 kids and a ton of video equipment." It is their belief that these kids were amateur storm chasers. She said the car was so unrecognizable that for a few minutes she was panicked that it was us, but then she remembered we were already back home.
