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1,500 mph Winds On Neptune-Chase THAT!!

Neptune has the most violent weather in the solar system. Winds there are clocked at 1,250 mph. While Neptune's Great Dark Spot was in existence, one of the Voyager probes found winds in the spot at 1,500 mph-the highest wind speed found on any planet in our solar system. That's twice the speed of sound.

Now, how would you folks like chasing THAT???

:p :twisted:
 
Originally posted by Karen Rhoden
Chasing anything that doesn't occur on earth doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm......more boredom, actually.

KR

Er...huh?

If you don't find a 300 mph F5 twister boring, why would you find a wind twice the speed the sound boring? Just because you couldn't be right there to measure it??

That's some odd logic.
 
It seems like we go over this every year. Yes, Neptune may have 1500 mph winds but the extremely low density of air would make that 1500 mph wind feel like a mere puff. Yes, the air particles are travelling that fast, but there aren't that many of them.

If you are interested in doing a comparison use this Excel Spreadsheet generated by the Mount Washington Observatory: http://www.easternlight.net/Wind.xls

Just plug in pressure, wind speed, and temperature and you can compare the force for several sites.
 
Originally posted by Saul Trabal+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Saul Trabal)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Karen Rhoden
Chasing anything that doesn't occur on earth doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm......more boredom, actually.

KR

Er...huh?

If you don't find a 300 mph F5 twister boring, why would you find a wind twice the speed the sound boring? Just because you couldn't be right there to measure it??

That's some odd logic.[/b]

Err.....no. I find it boring because it doesn't occur on the planet that we humans inhabit. Ergo - I will never chase it. Ergo - so what? :roll:

Also - if you want to get technical - the "winds" on that planet apparently don't manifest themselves in the form of a tornado - merely winds. I am sure that if all earth's tornado wind-speeds occurred as straight-line gusts, there wouldn't be half the chasers out there! :wink: We're visual creatures.......

Just a bit of fun..... :p

KR
 
Originally posted by Karen Rhoden+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Karen Rhoden)</div>
Originally posted by Saul Trabal@
<!--QuoteBegin-Karen Rhoden

Chasing anything that doesn't occur on earth doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm......more boredom, actually.

KR


Er...huh?

If you don't find a 300 mph F5 twister boring, why would you find a wind twice the speed the sound boring? Just because you couldn't be right there to measure it??

That's some odd logic.

Err.....no. I find it boring because it doesn't occur on the planet that we humans inhabit. Ergo - I will never chase it. Ergo - so what? :roll:

Also - if you want to get technical - the "winds" on that planet apparently don't manifest themselves in the form of a tornado - merely winds. I am sure that if all earth's tornado wind-speeds occurred as straight-line gusts, there wouldn't be half the chasers out there! :wink: We're visual creatures.......

Just a bit of fun..... :p

KR[/b]

Well, then I'll have to agree to disagree with you in the strongest of terms. :p

I don't take anything away from Earth's storms-which are awesome and frightening in their own right. But I'm not going to dismiss another planet's meteorology because "I can't be there." :roll:

:D
 
Originally posted by Saul Trabal
I don't take anything away from Earth's storms-which are awesome and frightening in their own right. But I'm not going to dismiss another planet's meteorology because \"I can't be there.\" :roll:

:D

I'd have to agree with you there - I find all sorts of meteorology fascinating, as well as astronomy. I am probably one who is in the small minority of liking high winds... For that reason, I like to chase severe thunderstorms - not JUST tornadoes. Also, chasing hurricanes is something that interests me greatly, and something I wish I could do. I always hate when people say they "busted" a chase because they didn't see a tornado - yet they may have witnessed some incredible other forms of meteorology.

Then I also agree with Karen... It really is a bit more exciting if you're there, experiencing it first hand.
 
I can understand where people are coming from when they get excited about thousand-mph wind gusts on some alien planet. But - for the sake of being pedantic and extrememly annoying.......does the term meteorology actually encompass the study of other alien planets' atmospheric conditions???

Perhaps someone needs to coin a phrase for other-wordly weather. And then post about it, on AstronomyTrack - the astral traveller's resource since space exploration began. :lol:

/annoying

KR
 
Oddly enough, given what I've read on the subject of thunderstorms on other planets, it's too bad there isn't more discussion about it. One recent news item on Cassini said it discovered massive columns of thunderstorms in Saturn's atmosphere that had lightning 10,000 times more powerful than Earth's.

So, my POV is this:

Earth-based storms are incredible. They blow me away-pun intended. ;) I gaze in awe at them. They frighten me. I respect their power.

Now, take storms like that and make them the size of continents, or the size of planets like Earth. Make the lightning bolts so powerful that they could possibly destroy a small town or city. Make the thunder so loud that listening to it close-up could destroy your eardrums.

Imagine tornadoes coming from these storms that would make the worst F5 twister look like a mere summer breeze. Imagine these tornadoes being so huge that they could engulf whole cities, possibly states.

Now, try to imagine yourself looking at storms like this.

That where my excitement on severe alien weather comes from. And I believe we have those kinds of storms in our solar system.

:D
 
This link has the news item on Saturn's thunderstorms.


I tell ya, if Cassini doesn't take CLOSE-UP pictures of the limb/cresent of Saturn from its night side, I'll be VERY, VERY dissapointed. I've seen pictures of Earth's limb taken from the night side, where you'd see thunderclouds mushroom into the sky. You could also see the surrounding cloud structures, as well as the blue sky and the sun shining through.

I must admit to being furious that this wasn't done with the Galileo spacecraft. Taking pictures of the storms from directly above is wonderful, but since we can't actually place a probe in the atmosphere of these gas giants to take pictures, this is the next best thing. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more furious I am. And I do remember some great shots of Jupiter's limb from the night side-but they weren't close-ups.

What a dissapointment. :(
 
I'll tell you, I don't care where those winds are...there still wind! I find it very important to know there is winds like this elsewhere...to a greater extent, however. If I could, I would go chase storms over there, lol...and it's only a matter of time until we get those storms here.... :lol:
 
Amen, Saul!!!!!
Why do we humans have to be so arrogant that we have to compare everything that happens to what we only know about Earth and go into a non-acceptance mode if it doesn't compare to those expectations. Open up and be willing to expand to include the unknown and different.
There is some study being done in extra-terrestrial meteorology and we do have one prof here at OU who does just that (I know beause I asked my old astronomy prof). I just haven't worked up enough nerve to go talk to her (yes, I said her :D ) because I just don't really want to know how much more math would be involved in those classes :shock: :cry: .
I think it would be so awesome to investigate how weather behaves in the non-terrestrial setting.
Angie
 
For those wondering about the term meteorology being used regarding the weather patterns on other worlds:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/planets/

Read the last sentence. The article is on a NASA website...an organization that also has no small amount to do with the weather satellite images taken of earth. I'm not about to argue with the terminology they choose to use lol

I'd be rather interested to learn what every person's definition of a meteor is, as well :D Without doing a net cheat!
 
I think the original Greek definition was the study of anything that falls out of the sky. Didn't specify what is falling or where the sky happens to be.... :wink:
Angie
 
Originally posted by Angie Norris
I think the original Greek definition was the study of anything that falls out of the sky. Didn't specify what is falling or where the sky happens to be.... :wink:
Angie

My small attempt at humor...which I see you picked up on quickly :D Are you absolutely certain I was referring to the sky? lol That would imply I'm being an earth-centrist in everything I ever say or type....heaven forbid!

In any event, I just thought I'd have a little fun with this.

Pat

Ps I virtually chased Neptune for my current avatar :) Of course the image is from NASA.
 
Also - if you want to get technical - the \"winds\" on that planet apparently don't manifest themselves in the form of a tornado - merely winds. I am sure that if all earth's tornado wind-speeds occurred as straight-line gusts, there wouldn't be half the chasers out there! We're visual creatures.......

Keep counting me in! I'd chase it for the FEEL of it. I'd be a multi-sensory chaser I suppose. I LOVE strong winds. Before anyone gets anal on my a$$ I realize I can't breathe there. And not to mention the fact that because I'd like it doesn't mean I'm saying they'd have to.

Perhaps someone needs to coin a phrase for other-wordly weather. And then post about it, on AstronomyTrack - the astral traveller's resource since space exploration began.

/annoying

Well, I found it more interesting than "welcome cold front". That should be on weather.com forums, not a CHASER forum! What chaser is happy to see a fall cold front(I admit sometimes I like them, but just trying to make a point). Sorry, doing my part for annoyances.
 
Growing up in MI, I learned to love strong winds... And I chase for all aspects of severe weather (although tornadoes are a very special part of chasing).

Originally posted by Mike Hollingshead
Well, I found it more interesting than \"welcome cold front\". That should be on weather.com forums, not a CHASER forum! What chaser is happy to see a fall cold front(I admit sometimes I like them, but just trying to make a point). Sorry, doing my part for annoyances.

:lol: True, I suppose...

I wasn't really bothered by the thread at all, but I do see the point a few were trying to make. We need to keep this a storm chaser forum, people... Now get to making a thread about research on Derechos within a dry boundary layer immediately :wink:
 
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