Vista considered harmful to photographers

Vista considered harmful to photographers.

This is an example of why only fools jump on the bleeding edge. I highly recommend waiting at_least until Service Pack 1 (and there is really no reason at all to upgrade, unless you have an application that requires Vista). If you are buying a new computer that comes with Vista, that is one thing, but paying for the privilege of being a MS beta tester is just silly (IMHO).

We are upgrading most our university I.T. Services personnel workstations to Vista so that we can begin identifying "issues" for campus users, and there are a bunch. I've got it on a Dell Optiplex SX280 but haven't used it for much, yet. (It's hard to pull me away from my Macs). :)
 
Also, a Vista upgrade INVALIDATES your XP key. That means that if you were trying to set up a dual-boot machine (giving you your choice of XP or Vista at startup) or you were hoping to install your previous version of XP on another machine — YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO. This is a change from how MS previously handled Windows upgrades.

I'm assuming that this is not true if you buy the full version (rather than upgrade). It's one of those things that people never read in the EULA (PDF EULA for Vista).
 
Also, a Vista upgrade INVALIDATES your XP key. That means that if you were trying to set up a dual-boot machine (giving you your choice of XP or Vista at startup) or you were hoping to install your previous version of XP on another machine — YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO. This is a change from how MS previously handled Windows upgrades.

I'm assuming that this is not true if you buy the full version (rather than upgrade). It's one of those things that people never read in the EULA (PDF EULA for Vista).

That's not accurate, my brother has his computer setup for dual boot and upgraded to Vista and he's never had a problem with it. He's done it 6 times now and always worked for him.
 
Did he purchase an upgrade version Windows Vista or did he buy the full package? As I understand it, that is the difference.
 
The upgrade of Vista just requires you to put your original install disc in... And it looks like the "fix" to this problem is to simply not tag the photo's metadata from within Vista.
 
Strike one. I'm telling you - there's no way on this earth that anybody could get me to upgrade to Vista..........not for maaaaany years - if then. To be honest - I see Vista going the way of Windows ME..........and I see Microsoft reverting back in about 3-5 years time to another new OS that is......strangely.......similar to XP. LMAO.

I'll just rest on my laurels looking smug here, thanks. We just purchased a used laptop for this VERY reason. We were prepared to buy a new one........that was until we discovered that all OS were now Vista. We did a complete 180 and bought a used IBM Thinkpad with lashings of RAM, a solid processor and Win. XP for half of the price. Should be a chase-brick for years to come, I hope..........

KL
 
Strike one. I'm telling you - there's no way on this earth that anybody could get me to upgrade to Vista..........not for maaaaany years - if then. To be honest - I see Vista going the way of Windows ME..........and I see Microsoft reverting back in about 3-5 years time to another new OS that is......strangely.......similar to XP. LMAO.

KL

I also feel the same way about this; now that Vista has made the transition from Vaporware to the store shelf, I'll let the early adopters be the bug hunters for Microsoft, and continue with an OS that has served me very well for the last two years.

If it ain't broke, I'm not going to break it.

John
VE4 JTH
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I doubt you'll find anyone that has upgraded to Vista who would be interested in reverting... This is not a bug. Those of us who used it for the last 6 months in beta were the bug-testers. I've had a grand total of zero problems with Vista since installing the final edition. This is not Windows ME.
 
I have been using it for a little while now and it has been very good to me. I have heard that there were alot of bugs with Vista, even before I read this thread, but to be honest I'm starting to like it better than XP.
 
As someone who manages software development for a living, all I can say is wait. The stablest Windows based platforms that we support are NT 4.0 service pack 6. Count them six major service pack to get it right. XP is also relatively stable. Microsoft has a deplorable track record on operating system releases.

Back in the day, the joke was “Windows isn’t done till service pack one.”

It is still true.
 
I was sick of my laptop having issues so I bought a new one with Vista pre-installed, did'nt even think about it, I was mostly thing (okay firewire port, 4 usb ports, sd card slot, built in wi-fi). My GPS, cell, and rebel xt works, having difficulties getting a couple other cameras working, and the SD port won't install either even though the OS came pre-installed! Some of the Canon updates won't install either (or run).

Anyway if I had a 'do-over' I would have avoided vista at all costs, I was pretty happy with XPSP2. I am sure most of the issues will be resolved (in the next year or two). XP pre SP1 worked better than this does.



(running the 32 bit version)
 
As one big negative aspect for mobile use there's absolutely insane amount of "DRM" (=use limiting) crap embedded into it consuming system resources which means shorter operating time without "hose feeding" of power...
Not forgetting how much there's other bloated stuff in it.
 
Its just like the commercial with Pc in a hospital gown and Mac asks him whats going on and Pc says he is upgrading to Vista.

This may be off topic, But "Windows Defender" (anti spyware, etc) used to run for WinMe and Win2k, By 2007 they Ended all support for Winme and Win2k for Windows Defender and now only WinXp can use the software. Sadly I think by 2008 XP will be outdated since most Support will be for vista, therefore Microsoft ending Support for XP to better suit the Vista customers.

Is XP even stable currently? No Blue screens, hold ups, etc?

-gerrit
 
Is XP even stable currently? No Blue screens, hold ups, etc?

-gerrit

I haven't had any crashes on my laptop with XP at all. Having said that, I still don't like it because there's just too much bloatware embedded in XP. Just another MS product that's an inefficient memory pig.

Now I'm seriously thinking of switching to Linux on the laptop and getting rid of the XP.

John
VE4 JTH
 
I haven't had any crashes on my laptop with XP at all. Having said that, I still don't like it because there's just too much bloatware embedded in XP. Just another MS product that's an inefficient memory pig.

Now I'm seriously thinking of switching to Linux on the laptop and getting rid of the XP.

John
VE4 JTH

I'm currently dual-booting Ubuntu linux and XP SP2. I gave brief thought to moving to all Linux (i.e. removing XP), but Linux can be such a pain in the butt sometimes. Fetch this library, ./make that, vim install.config something else. I still haven't had any luck getting my WPA2 wireless system in my house to work under Linux (supposedly, there are ways to get WPA to work, but they've all been unsuccessful for me, even after spending 4-5 hours trying to get it to work). Needless to say, I certainly won't be going "all Linux" anytime soon. I do like the dual-boot setup, however, since I have some work-related apps that only work on the Linux side (e.g. SoloII).

Unrelated to this, I chuckle when I read about some folks dogging Vista for being all about eye candy (neglecting some of the very important security changes and top-level changes to the kernel structure in Vista) and saying they are moving to Mac, an OS that has, for many years, been a lot more "pretty" and full of eye-candy than any MS OS. If Apple wasn't so dang controlling with their hardware, I'd consider it (building a Mac-machine isn't as much fun given the relative lack of hardware options/brands/models and the relatively steep price). But hey, that's a big reason why Mac OSs tend to be quite stable (if you keep a tight reign on the hardware your OS must address, it's much easier for your OS to behave properly). FWIW, I haven't had a non-self-inflicted crash in XP for years. <end rant>
 
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