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The Evacuation

Place to discuss any news on the evacuation and your opinions about it.

It looks like the masses are finally getting into gear in New Orleans, but I am worried that the window is closing. The system is not designed for every person in the city to fill up their gas tank in the same day. Cars are going to begin running out of gasoline while sitting in traffic. That's going to lead to more traffic, delays, etc.
 
Originally posted by B Ozanne
Cars are going to begin running out of gasoline while sitting in traffic.

This is what I am truly afraid of; any blockage of the contraflow system will add time to the evacuation that we simply do not have. Those stuck on the highways in the hours prior to landfall will have little chance to escape once the flooding begins.
 
AsI mentioned in another post it appears both the ETA and GFS models are indicating a landfall Monday morning (after 7am) and not the Monday afternoon / evening previously being mentioned. If that is true it could have catastrophic consequences to evacuees and chasers.
 
Looks like things are going well. They are ending the contraflow as the
traffic eases.

Edit: Things are going OK in some areas!
 
Jim Cantore has been reporting a gridlocked I10 out near Biloxi, MS. I think this has a lot to do with New Orleans wanting to get east (though I hope most are going north), in combination with the rest of the folks along coastal Mississippi wanting to get out of the way.
 
I was just watching Fox News and there seem to be a lot of tourist in NO that have no clue on what is going on. They don't speak english and most of the hotels are closing down and there are no rental cars left. I sure hope they can find a place to ride this storm out.
 
Don't speak English? I don't buy that. If you came to the US as a tourist you are competent enough to put together that something major is going on.

Wouldn't be obvious when everything you see on tv includes a massive red circle spinning across the Gulf?
 
Shepard Smith on Fox News Channel was on Borbon Street live interviewing some hardheaded people. Apparently the bars are full and thousands aren't leaving.

The one guy said that its always overexaggerated and that they lose million in revenue because hurricanes are always hyped.

I guess it always takes one bad storm to wake people up that when theres a warning of this magnitude...they need to evacuate.

...Alex Lamers...
 
Originally posted by Alex Lamers

I guess it always takes one bad storm to wake people up that when theres a warning of this magnitude...they need to evacuate.

...Alex Lamers...

Or one bad storm to put them to sleep permenantly...

I heard people saying that the mayor was just hyping this because it is an election year for him...geez.
 
Thus the reason why NHC tries what they can do to minimize the FAR (False Alarm Rate). They HAVE had evacs that, in hindsight, weren't necessary. Ivan, Isidore, Lili, etc, all were thought to have the possibility to directly impact New Orleans as a major hurricane, yet NO dodged those storms.
 
That's the problem with hurricanes, isn't it: the NHC is always perceived as Chicken Little or the boy crying wolf until the wolf shows up and the sky falls.

We have shuch short memories and a resultant poor grasp of catastrophism in history. It's much easier to deny that anything that bad will really happen; to believe that things will work out. How people can believe that while simultaneously reading casualty reports from disasters like the Indonesian tsunami show the disconnect clearly.
 
Originally posted by Alex Lamers
Shepard Smith on Fox News Channel was on Borbon Street live interviewing some hardheaded people. Apparently the bars are full and thousands aren't leaving.

The one guy said that its always overexaggerated and that they lose million in revenue because hurricanes are always hyped.

I guess it always takes one bad storm to wake people up that when theres a warning of this magnitude...they need to evacuate.

...Alex Lamers...


What's great is how news channels are showing traffic pictures from this morning and saying everything is gridlocked ... there's a guy I think on Fox who says he hasn't moved an inch outside of Biloxi ... hype hype

I think what's classic is how news agencies can't agree if the eye passes to the west of NO or to the east of NO is worse ... either way I heard CNN say that over 10 guns now have been confiscated and multiple knives and alcohol from people going into the superdome ... they are also not allowing in any TV's or playstations, etc ... those people are going to be bored and on edge ...

I honestly hope everyone will be okay and no chaos will break out ... fingers are pointing already for the evacuational mess ... eep
 
Originally posted by Benjamin Sipprell

What's great is how news channels are showing traffic pictures from this morning and saying everything is gridlocked ... there's a guy I think on Fox who says he hasn't moved an inch outside of Biloxi ... hype hype

Some roads ARE gridlocked. This NOT hype. They had live video from highway 61 just outside New Orleans that is literally gridlocked. Nobody moving. Yes, a lot of the freeway video near NO has shown little traffic, but many of the side roads are gridlocked. I can't imagine why people wouldn't get onto the freeway, but still... Some awesome wave action hitting seawalls on Fox now.
 
Originally posted by Jeff Snyder+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeff Snyder)</div>
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What's great is how news channels are showing traffic pictures from this morning and saying everything is gridlocked ... there's a guy I think on Fox who says he hasn't moved an inch outside of Biloxi ... hype hype

Some roads ARE gridlocked. This NOT hype. They had live video from highway 61 just outside New Orleans that is literally gridlocked. Nobody moving. Yes, a lot of the freeway video near NO has shown little traffic, but many of the side roads are gridlocked. I can't imagine why people wouldn't get onto the freeway, but still... Some awesome wave action hitting seawalls on Fox now.[/b]


You're right ... just checked the traffic cams around Baton Rouge (may need to refresh) and out toward Biloxi MS on I-10 and there is grid lock ... but at least those people are out of the worst path ...

NO-LA site for traffic cameras is slow
 
Yeah, they stopped the contraflow at 4pm, so it's even slower now.

They're not allowing alcohol in the Superdome, but they are allowing cigarettes, yet smoking is prohibited. Yeah... that's gonna work. :roll:

That place is going to be a powderkeg. If the storm doesn't destroy it, the people might.
 
Imagine what the superdome would be like with those guys stuck there for days.

Its starting to look like they may not complete their evac in time.
 
They said it holds 70k people, but that includes the lower levels which won't be safe. It's a given that they're more than likely going to lose power, turning it into an oven. They're going to have to literally manage that place like a prison to prevent chaos. I'm not sure they can do it.
 
People often at their best in disaster

For the 16 months after 9/11, I worked for the Red Cross as a Disaster volunteer and later on the Health and Safety paid staff. The universal experience of disaster workers, at least for the last 25-30 years, is that disasters bring out a lot of altruistic behavior. The National Guard also knows how to keep order should the victims not do so themselves.

This said, there are a lot of ghouls who will prey on the victims, and some victims will become ghouls themselves. Just don't expect much indecorous behavior at the Superdome tonight or tomorrow.

If you would like to help the Red Cross in its work, please dial 1-800-HELP-NOW. If you want to make sure that aid goes to NO, just say so.
 
What's great is how news channels are showing traffic pictures from this morning and saying everything is gridlocked ... there's a guy I think on Fox who says he hasn't moved an inch outside of Biloxi ... hype hype

Some roads ARE gridlocked. This NOT hype. They had live video from highway 61 just outside New Orleans that is literally gridlocked. Nobody moving. Yes, a lot of the freeway video near NO has shown little traffic, but many of the side roads are gridlocked. I can't imagine why people wouldn't get onto the freeway, but still... Some awesome wave action hitting seawalls on Fox now.

As a native of the area, Hwy 61 is ALWAYS gridlocked :p damn neverending construction.
 
They said it holds 70k people, but that includes the lower levels which won't be safe. It's a given that they're more than likely going to lose power, turning it into an oven. They're going to have to literally manage that place like a prison to prevent chaos. I'm not sure they can do it.

Woah, that's scary. They say if the are floods the area may be uninhabitable for weeks or months. Imagine being stuck in the Superdome, with no electricity. That means after the storm passes it's still August and the sun comes out. The bottom interior section of the dome would still be flooded for a long time. That means it's just an oven baking with no light and no AC!!! This for weeks and weeks?!!! How could they survive?
 
They said it holds 70k people, but that includes the lower levels which won't be safe. It's a given that they're more than likely going to lose power, turning it into an oven. They're going to have to literally manage that place like a prison to prevent chaos. I'm not sure they can do it.

Woah, that's scary. They say if the are floods the area may be uninhabitable for weeks or months. Imagine being stuck in the Superdome, with no electricity. That means after the storm passes it's still August and the sun comes out. The bottom interior section of the dome would still be flooded for a long time. That means it's just an oven baking with no light and no AC!!! This for weeks and weeks?!!! How could they survive?

Maybe start airlifting people out? Rescue rafts? It would take awhile, but it seems like a good option to me.
 
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