• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

    I apologize to those who continue to have issues with the service and continue to see their issues left unaddressed. Please understand that the connection between ST and SN was put in place long before I had any say over it. But now that I am the "captain of this ship," it is within my right (nay, duty) to make adjustments as I see necessary. Ending this relationship is such an adjustment.

    For those who continue to need help, I recommend navigating a web browswer to SpotterNetwork's About page, and seeking the individuals listed on that page for all further inquiries about SpotterNetwork.

    From this moment forward, the SpotterNetwork sub-forum has been hidden/deleted and there will be no assurance that any SpotterNetwork issues brought up in any of Stormtrack's other sub-forums will be addressed. Do not rely on Stormtrack for help with SpotterNetwork issues.

    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Terms that spotter/Media use that bothers me

The local stations around Salina were describing it in the same manner. I had to explain to my friend (his first chase) that this was a terrible way to judge power/strength. It is unfortunate as it only perpetuates incorrect information.

Exactly. I wonder how many people hear something like that and think oh its a small tornado I can be reed timmer and drive through it, or I don`t need to go to my basement, thinking it`s an EF0 or it`s dying because it's small. I always thought weather stations in the plains were better than in the midwest, but as of late I`ve found that not to be the case. There is disinformation and dangerous disinformation at that, everywhere.
 
Definitely the amount the media tries to determine the rating a tornado will receive before damage assessment. Calling tornadoes funnel clouds. Minor things mainly though.
 
The local stations around Salina were describing it in the same manner. I had to explain to my friend (his first chase) that this was a terrible way to judge power/strength. It is unfortunate as it only perpetuates incorrect information.

More bizarre is some towns' reaction on the rare occasions the NWS downgrades an EF rating; EF-anythings can cause damage, and a small town could easily be completely devastated by an EF-3. But it seems many take it as a personal affront if the scientists say the tornado that hit them was anything less than an EF-5.
 
L.B. LaForce said:
LOL. I found it funny one day, on an SN report, it said "NWS employee reports marble sized hail"

If I'm not mistaken, I think the default program in WFOs that is used to generate LSRs still lists "Marble Size 0.50 INCH," so it's possible that old terminology can still be floating around. Old habits can be hard to break, even among forecasters.
 
The Weather Channel - everything is either a wedge or a multi-vortex tornado, even if it's a skinny little rope... :rolleyes:
 
If I'm not mistaken, I think the default program in WFOs that is used to generate LSRs still lists "Marble Size 0.50 INCH," so it's possible that old terminology can still be floating around. Old habits can be hard to break, even among forecasters.


I have just recently taken the Spotter Class here in Alabama. And you are right Chris, that is the old term. It was a point of emphases NOT to use the term "marble" size anymore. So when I hear that now I just roll my eye's and wonder "WHY"?
 
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