Pictures on the "Daily Mail" site

[Chris Hayes]

The Daily Male newspaper in the UK has taken it upon themselves to use pictures from storm chasers in an article today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=550731&in_page_id=1811

 

[scott r currens]

• From Adventures In Tornado Alley: The Storm Chasers, by Mike Hollingshead and Eric Nguyen (published by Thames & Hudson, £14.95).

All the pictures are from the book. I am guessing that the publishers released the images to the newspaper as a part of their PR for the book.

The book is avalible at: Amazon.com

I got my copy last week. It is a fantastic collection of imagery from two of the very best.

 

[Karen Politte]

I don't know about "taken it upon themselves". Considering it's an article written about the two chasers whose images they have used, and it's also an advertisement for their book - I would think that the use is acceptable and authorized.

Oh, and um.....you might want to edit your post there......the "Daily Male" might indeed be a genuine British publication - but I doubt its running stories on storm chasers!

KP

 

[James Langford]

I was just coming to post on this. Saw a link off of DrudgeReport and thought "more piracy of Hollingsheads' photos". I was very happy to see the reference at the bottom of the page saying:

"From Adventures In Tornado Alley: The Storm Chasers, by Mike Hollingshead and Eric Nguyen (published by Thames & Hudson, £14.95)."

I was surprised that each photo wasn't copywrited individually on the page, though.

James

 

[Chris Hayes]

Ooops. My bad. I didnt read but the first part of the article and didnt see where they mentioned the book. lol

 

[Jeff Snyder]

I wonder if the folks at Daily Mail processed the pics more themselves, because some of them are very overprocessed. The overuse of unsharp mask is apparent by the uber-bright and uber-dark areas outlining the high-contrast areas (i.e. between the ground and sky), and it's apparent by the fact that one or two look like they're painted. *shrug*

 

[Karen Politte]

After mousing-over each image, I love it how each image is captioned "tornado".

Shouldn't that be "mini-tornado"??

KP

 

[Bill Hark]

I just ordered my copy from Amazon.com. I've been looking forward to this book since I heard it was coming out. Both Eric and Mike have taken some amazing photos over the years. This should be nice tribute to Eric's photographic acheievement over his unfortunately short life.

Bill Hark

 

[Ron_Jarrell]

And it appears the non watermarked, non copyrighted individual photos are now being spammed like wildfire:
http://www.talkweather.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46438&st=0&gopid=561630&#entry561630

 

[Amos Magliocco]

I posted a short review of the book in the Marketplace forum here:

http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15602

It's genuinely worth the money. Between Mike and Eric's pictures, and Dr. Doswell's written sections, it's a great representation of chasing and the amazing things we see.

As for the Daily Mail, I expect those pictures will spread like crazy now; there won't be anything to do about it. Drudge is about as high-visibility as it gets on the internet. But since it's basically a "story" about a product, it's really more like an advertisement, and I bet the publisher's PR people are dancing all the way to the pub this evening to celebrate.

The images they show in their story are so low quality and overprocessed (in the actual book, they look great) that I don't think it's a big deal, even without the copyright marks. It almost looks like they scanned the images. I don't know. The Mulvane picture is represented by Corbis International, so if the Mail did something wrong I'm sure they'll hear about it soon enough. In the meantime, it's valuable exposure for the book.

 

[Mikey Gribble]

Drudge Report huh. Hollingshead has hit the big time. That place gets like 5 million hits a day. I had a coworker come tell me about it earlier.

 

[Mike Hollingshead]

Heaven's Hammer: A monster tornado unleashes its wrath across Alvo, Nebraska, travelling at over 70mph

Tiny tornadoes, followed by rfd blasting the storm to pieces, and scud moving by overhead over 70 mph turned into that above. lol So far the UK seems the worst at handling things you said(or simply have on your site). The Sunday Times article last fall said I took shelter in a town on my first chase, and when I came out, the entire town around me was destroyed. That after I actually said I took shelter and a big violent tornado went just south of town, destroying a couple farm houses. They also said I skipped Christmas to chase. I was like, I did? I should remember chasing in late December, let alone on Christmas! I think I said that I would, after I was promted to come up with things I'd skip to go chasing.

I wonder who they "checked" the text with for all that. I had no idea it was coming out till I saw this thread on my way home today.

As for the photos, I agree, they look cooked/nuked on there. I'd think a pr person getting them in such a big publication thing like the Daily Mail, would check them first, or have someone check them. I don't think I'd be too eager to buy a book if I thought the images would look that overdone. Looks like however they got them, they then boosted saturation, lightness, contrast, and even sharpening. The Alvo storm though was super contrasty from my angle at that time, since the storm was just about to die, and was seperating from the rain core....all while the sun was low and directly behind it. Toss in the camera not fitting that dynamic range, and therefor making it even more contrasty than it was, and well, it's just really contrasty. But yeah, whatever they did made it worse.

 

[Ryan McGinnis]

The Daily Male newspaper in the UK has taken it upon themselves to use pictures from storm chasers in an article today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=550731&in_page_id=1811

You lucky bugger -- I think Corbis holds the exclusivity to that second one, non? Or are you out of Corbis altogether now? If you're not, then Corbis will be happy to collect some hard currency on the second shot.

At any rate, I'd call a solicitor if I were you; I imagine you'll squeeze a few pounds outta them for that. You might start with Carolyn Wright (www.photoattorney.com) -- she handles stuff like this all the time, though I don't know how she handles the UK.

*edit* -- I just read that this was in regards to your book. In that case, I suspect the uses are legit, at least if you gave your publisher rights to publisize your book with your photos. And, to be fair, sellings books = making you $$$, so it's probably worth it.

Put me down for a copy of the book when it comes out. I'll throw it in the back seat of my car with a pen in case I run into you on the plains this year.

 

[Mike Deep]

The Dailymail is practically a tabloid, judging from the articles of their's I've seen on Digg. When I saw "Amazing Storm Photos" mentioned on dpreview I thought "Probably Mike H's photos again" before I even clicked the link. At least they gave credit I guess, even if they did mess them up (What's with the jacked up cyan?).

Anyway, the book is incredible, worth every penny and then some.

 

[Bill Hark]

I received my copy of the book today. Wow!! Absolutely amazing collection of images. Definitely the art of storm photography. Of course, I expected nothing less considering the talent behind the book. Highly recommend it.

Bill Hark