• After witnessing the continued decrease of involvement in the SpotterNetwork staff in serving SN members with troubleshooting issues recently, I have unilaterally decided to terminate the relationship between SpotterNetwork's support and Stormtrack. I have witnessed multiple users unable to receive support weeks after initiating help threads on the forum. I find this lack of response from SpotterNetwork officials disappointing and a failure to hold up their end of the agreement that was made years ago, before I took over management of this site. In my opinion, having Stormtrack users sit and wait for so long to receive help on SpotterNetwork issues on the Stormtrack forums reflects poorly not only on SpotterNetwork, but on Stormtrack and (by association) me as well. Since the issue has not been satisfactorily addressed, I no longer wish for the Stormtrack forum to be associated with SpotterNetwork.

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    Sincerely, Jeff D.

Oklahoma Weather Tracking Licensure Legislation

It wasn't lost on me yesterday that TV chasers from outside the Enid-Tonkawa TV viewing area were on the scene yesterday following the cell. Just getting paid to engage in their favorite hobby. ("It's a great gig if you can get it.")

So much for the "We have to warn our viewers!" argument.

Fetgatter's bill is all about creating a favored class of private citizens. Such is not the proper role of government.
 
Yes!!!!! The bill is dead for now. Our efforts have paid off.
This is very important: we need to get knowledgeable Storm Track folks involved in any interim study.



This is also an opportunity for law enforcement and EMS services to speak against it where they might have been reluctant to be seen as interfering with the legislative process while it was being heard by the Legislature.
 
A nice victory for the people! Thanks!


A suggestion: Don't give them any ideas!
That’s a great point. In the beginning, I for one, blasted Fetgatter and Mann on a lot of language that could have been used to restrict public chasing. In response to our collective pressure, a lot of that language was removed.

Was that a mistake? To point out the policy defects? From the point of view of activism and scoring points after bill passage, yes that was a mistake. We tipped our hand. We helped them fix a bill that would have ultimately embarrassed them.

But from the point of view of making sure a bill that seemed cruising to passage was softened, I think we did well to get the anti-chaser language out of the bill.

They cannot fix the public safety or constitutional infirmities. Those persist because they are “the goal of the bill”: to make us less safe and take away our rights.

They won’t say that out loud, course. Because they know it’s wrong and they don’t care as long as they can sneak it through.

That’s what makes me so angry. I hate this stuff.
 
A nice victory for the people! Thanks!


A suggestion: Don't give them any ideas!
This is all good news, but we can't yet let our guard down!

As indicated in a previous post, we shouldn't be worried about what we can't control (including giving "them" our "ideas" on this forum), but rather concentrate on making such compelling arguments in our opposition viewpoints that no matter what their push-back is, it will appear reactive, weak, and lame by comparison. Our argument(s) must project confidence, so that theirs will come across as desperation. We need lots of accurate, verifiable facts, figures, graphics, and statistics when laying out our clear arguments; this will lend credibility and show that we have "done our homework" and have thought about ripple-effects beyond the bill's immediate purpose (affecting SWE days in OK).

To accomplish the above successfully may also require some inquiry and communication with parties outside the state of Oklahoma: such as, corporate offices of private automobile insurance companies or the front-office of the OKC Thunder, lending further credibility or seeking a statement of endorsement to our opposition efforts. This must originate from inside the state, so perhaps some of our in-state active posters could coordinate on such tasks and start that process. We already have abundant in-state expertise regarding law-enforcement and emergency-management aspects of our argument, so these people should also organize and even communicate among each other to sharpen and focus opposition ideas. It will take some effort, but the reward is to defeat this awful legislation in the end (whenever that comes).

BTW, to Mike's suggestion above, since many of us are interested-readers from out-of-state, perhaps the active posters inside OK could communicate with one another primarily via direct-messaging while putting together their draft talking-points; at some point, perhaps by early autumn, when a final draft communication letter or document is ready for review, some members who are well-published (e.g., Warren, Mike, and others) could be provided draft copies, again via direct messaging, to develop a the final communication which will be sent to the appropriate legislator(s) at the appropriate time in the ongoing legislative process. Once this communication is in the hands of the pols, it should be posted publicly to the ST membership. It is really difficult to do this in a semi-clandestine way without upsetting members who are used to participating and being heard on such an open and unfettered forum, which is why I will go on record opposing that kind of practice! That said, I will be happy to be involved anyway I can be useful to this cause, including reviewing interim drafts.
 
A suggestion: Don't give them any ideas!
This is the argument I was trying to make much earlier in this thread. Much like a lawyer doesn't tell opposing council about the strategy they plan to use at trial, we have to be careful about blasting our talking points to members of the OK legislature on both sides of this issue. If Fetgatter gets our talking points ahead of time he can craft responses to them. They may not be good responses, but his counter points will be more conversing than if you catch him off guard. This isn't about making the bill better, it is about defeating it out right. The good news is now that the House has voted on this once, we now know better who is sympathetic to our views at least in the House.

On a side note, until the 4/26/2025 deadline for House bills to come out of Senate committee has passed, we still have to be watchful. Right now all we have is a rumor that this bill is dead for this session.
 
The outstanding issue (among many others discussed here) I have with the bill is the fact that it was making what is illegal, legal.

For example making the running of red lights/stop signs/driving the wrong way all legal but only for the elite chasers with fancy wraps (and the chaser license numbers) plastered all over their vehicles.

Was the mentality of the lawmakers like "if we cannot enforce the illegal maneuvers that chasers are now doing, let's just make them legal for the ones that'll pay the 500.00/year"?

It's been in the back of my mind ever since this was introduced.
 
There were a lot of strategies and psychological tactics we used to fight this bill. I don't want to discuss details because we may need to use similar tactics with future bills. HB2426 was a mess by calculated design. Multiple, private conversations with legislative and public safety sources also helped. The biggest losers of this fight are the TV stations. They have now placed their crews under the constant microscope of chaser and public scrutiny -- to be plastered on social media. I warned Channel 9 this was going to happen, but they ignored me.
 
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