May 10, 2004 Limon, CO DVD Highlights

Wow! Seeing lightning with a tornado looks really cool. Normally when I see tornado video, there's not much if any lightning occuring near the tornado or in the meso itself. I thought this was due to the rain-free base. Why do some mesos produce lightining more often than others?
 
That is an interesting topic that has been brought up in the past on many lists. Maybe we should start one on that here. I caught an interesting event May 16 this year with an extremely electified HP. It was one constant roll as it approached. It produced a couple brief touchdowns and nearly instantly following this the lightning drops off to next to nothing. Then the main tornado is produced. Probably more what is going on with the updraft itself then the ground contact. One reason some tornadic events might seem this way is lightning loves to occur in the vualt region away from the base, or at least "east" of the base. 8-26 was a fine example of this in sw IA. Just looking at the video of the meso you'd think there was NO lightning going on. But if you were there you'd of noticed stroke after stroke many miles east of the updraft base from the "anvil". That storm was in a very high shear environment with the updraft having to be tilted way the hell over in the 100 knt upper jet. Anyway...... sweet capture here for sure.
 
The Mulvane, KS storm on June 12 had an incredible amount of GC's during the 2nd tornado. At one point they were only 5 or 10 seconds between each one.[Broken External Image]:http://www.oklahomalightning.com/2004Chase/June12/3vc.jpg
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In this one you can see the funnel at the top right. It almost looked like the lightining traveled down the funnel.
 
Originally posted by Tony Laubach
Wow Charles! That last shot is incredible!!! :shock: :shock:


More like HOLY S**T!!!

Seriously, I would think the ligtning went right down through the tornado.
 
Originally posted by David Draun+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(David Draun)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Tony Laubach
Wow Charles! That last shot is incredible!!! :shock: :shock:


More like HOLY S**T!!!

Seriously, I would think the ligtning went right down through the tornado.[/b]

There were probably 50-100 video cameras from every angle on that tornado and it would be interesting to see what it looked like from another vantage point. The one problem with it was it was a very quick flash and almost not visible in the video.
 
If you look at my original image at the top of the posting and Charles last pic you'll notice that these two lightning bolts that are closest to the tornados are 'blown apart' almost like an air discharge or ball lightning. I wonder if the windfields near the vortex cause the return stroke to 'explode' in this way? What'd ya think?
 
Actually Verne.. I took a close look at your still and thought that the bolt looked a bit like a running man who got tagged.. the arms and a leg.. kinda funny to see.. like the AOL dude got picked off!

I suppose the wind fields around the bolt could have something to do with the current.. but I'm not sure how that would work.. it could be the path the lightnig chose based upon dust particles or such the tornado may have had around it?
 
Originally posted by Charles Allison
There were probably 50-100 video cameras from every angle on that tornado and it would be interesting to see what it looked like from another vantage point. The one problem with it was it was a very quick flash and almost not visible in the video.


From the look of your pics, you had pretty much the same angle as I did. I've never seen CG activity more insane around a tornadic storm than this one; I'm deathly afraid of lightning unless_I'm_seeing_a_tornado, and then I'm normally too tranced to care......but on this day, I turned away from the first tornado to get my a$$ back inside the truck.

I accidentally captured an amazing lightning strike near the Rock, KS tornado later that day......on the still frame of my video I counted over 20 forks. I'm seriously considering this image for the cover of my DVD.
 
Here is what I believe is the same CG Charles got in the last picture.....as viewed from the southwest......

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Like Charles said - these were quite difficult to pick out on video. Lots of quick cloud to ground and cloud to air strikes throughout the event - no multiple return strokes either so they all appeared as one quick flash instead of a flicker.
 
Originally posted by Verne Carlson
If you look at my original image at the top of the posting and Charles last pic you'll notice that these two lightning bolts that are closest to the tornados are 'blown apart' almost like an air discharge or ball lightning. I wonder if the windfields near the vortex cause the return stroke to 'explode' in this way? What'd ya think?

Apparently — though I have only read this in 1960s science books, so it may be exaggerated as 1960s science tends to be — the "path of lightining" (stepped leader?) can be pushed along by the wind, and you get a blurred shape in a time exposure photo. In the photos these books used, it shows an entire bolt "straying," in non-tornadic circumstances, but perhaps because the wind-field of a tornado isn't a vertically straight line, only part of the bolt would "stray" like that.
 
Had the chance to watch Verne Carlson's DVD documenting this storm last night all I can say is what a storm. It was great to see it from different angles from what I witnessed. The video is steady and shows the evoloution of this storm very well. The view of both the thin rope near I 70 and the ultimate large tornado in the valley complete with ground action is both beautiful and incredible. You could teach a class just based on this storm.

Well worth getting!
 
Wow, what a beautiful tornado towards the end! Verne covers the entire chase very well with nicely tripodded video of the whole evolution. I was a bit mesmerized by that late evening tornado. Just a very 'rain-free' tornado that rapidly grows into this beautiful stovepipe with this interesting lighting on it(beauty light that happens shortly after sunset). The music was nice too how it was inserted in the background. Interesting selection too. At first I was like, this is cool, what the heck is it....then I figured it out. Nice job, well worth the trade or purchase.
 
Verne Carlson provides the chance to see a classic chase day with his DVD from May 10, 2004 – Cedar Creek, CO Tornadoes. The video starts with the familiar vast Colorado fields balanced with an approaching supercell. From here, the video chronically moves into the chase, observing tornado after tornado from this violent storm. Classic supercell structure with a nice beaver tail and vault region is present. Verne keeps the action tripoded throughout the chase making for easy viewing. The tornado north of I-70 is a must see as this tube expands rapidly into a wedge. This breathtaking tornado is followed by another eerie tornado after dark. For those interesting in seeing a full documentation of May 10th, this is a must have DVD!

Scott Blair
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I was very excited to see this wonderful DVD documenting the May 10, 2004 supercell near Limon, CO. Verne is able to get into position so that you see each meso occlude as a new one forms closer to the camera. Meso after meso, and tornado after tornado this video keeps getting better. The highlight of the video is a giant high contrast cone tornado at dusk. Verne gets steady tripoded video with great close-ups of the big tornado near I-70. The drivers on I-70 don’t seem to react at all to this highly visible strong to violent tornado. It never ceases to amaze me how oblivious the general public is to tornadoes.

Excellent job Verne! Congratulations on a chase of a live time.

Scott Currens
2004 Highlight Video Preview:
www.mesoscale.ws/video
 
Vern does a nice job covering the May 10 storm near Limon. Nice tripoded video. I never realized eastern Colorado was so flat. Does a nice job capturing the tornado's from start to finish.
 
FINALLY watched Verne's dvd of one of the best storms of the year!
What a LONG, succesful chase! Tornadoes of every size, finishing with a back lit wedge as darkness moves in. Amazing storm for sure (why couldn't it have been in Kansas!) and Verne does a nice job staying with the action the entire time. Great job Verne.
 
Verne's video is awesome! Its as close to a real Colorado tornado as I've been! It's well documented and beautifully filmed! I've watched it a couple times since getting it! I'd suggest the same to anyone looking at it! WOWZA! 8)
 
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